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OfflineJules

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Re: If we could have Madrid 2001 pro dvd...
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2009, 03:40:00 PM »
Thats why you have several cammeras filming, and you can choose the take that fits better :-)
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Re: If we could have Madrid 2001 pro dvd...
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2009, 05:55:00 PM »
How can so many of you think the KtGC tour was so great when it clearly lacked any sort of energy at all?  This was by far and away MK's worst tour ever and the fact that no official record has been made from it is the best decision taken by MK/PCM ever!

The StP tour was, conversely full of energy and should have been documented.  Oh, and JMcC wasn't there taking half of MK's solo's either with his blasted cittern! ::)
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Re: If we could have Madrid 2001 pro dvd...
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2009, 06:15:27 PM »
dmg,   Of all the tours I have attended and that is all of them from Golden Heart onward, STP was the worst for me, primarily because of Mike Henderson and his overpowering guitar!  It is the only MK concert I have come home from feeling utterly depressed and it took a while for me to become interested again.   :-\    

I really enjoyed KTGC, and I loved the set list, especially the wonderful TLWNF, HFB and Marbletown.  It certainly didn't lack energy as far as I am concerned and I came away from all four of the concerts I attended feeling euphoric!    :)   I loved John's contribution on all of the instruments he played, including the cittern.   It completely transformed TLWNF, although it sounded just as beautiful from Red Rocks, when John was absent!  :)
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Re: If we could have Madrid 2001 pro dvd...
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2009, 06:41:37 PM »
I loved them all! (although I missed 96 and 01)

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Re: If we could have Madrid 2001 pro dvd...
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2009, 06:47:19 PM »
We clearly have very different ideas here!

I do however agree that Mike Henderson was a mistake.  Perhaps Bobby Valentino, who MK had played with on the promo tour would have been better to handle the fiddle parts because an extra guitarist wasn't really needed.

Surely you must agree though that MK's playing was devoid of all energy during the KtGC tour.  It pains me to say it, believe me.  Also, he seemed to want to avoid solo's, e.g. omitting them in WII and TR.  During the StP tour at least he was stretching himself.
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Re: If we could have Madrid 2001 pro dvd...
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2009, 06:54:04 PM »
No, I don't agree, but that's OK. Just look at his solo on HFB - amazing -  and I loved the new arrangement of TR, in fact those from Red Rocks and Charlotte are amongst my favourites of TR.   It would be really boring if we all felt the same, though!   :)  


 
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Re: If we could have Madrid 2001 pro dvd...
« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2009, 10:20:15 AM »
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Re: If we could have Madrid 2001 pro dvd...
« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2009, 10:24:14 AM »
My opinion is that 2001 is under-rated and that 2008 is over-rated. I enjoyed them both though.

2001 pros: Mike Henderson "challenged" MK IMO and forced him to raise his game, in the same way that MK did when playing with Clapton.
Interesting set lists, the most fluid and diverse we've had on a solo tour.
Lots of great special guests.

2008 cons: Set list still very similar to 2005 and 2006, yawn.
Static set lists.
Short sets.
McCusker redundant for the encores.
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Re: If we could have Madrid 2001 pro dvd...
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2009, 10:44:35 AM »
My feeling about Mike Henderson is that far from challenging MK, he all but drowned him out, especially in Speedway.    A couple of plusses from the concert I attended at the RAH were "Junkie Doll" and "Prairie Wedding" - they were amazing.

I think the most diverse solo tour was Golden Heart.   There were songs from just about all of the albums and also the soundtracks and the show lasted for around three hours.    Definitely one of the best tours imo!  

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Re: If we could have Madrid 2001 pro dvd...
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2009, 11:13:38 AM »
I would say that Mark's playing on the last tour was his worst ever. It was really good in TR and HFB, songs that seem to fit him nowadays. But solos that demand more technical playing - Sultans etc - did lack energy.

The biggest problem for me is the static setlists, though. 2005, 2006, 2008. It was basically the same tour, with some fiddle in 2008. With Mark's back catalogue, he could replace each and every song from last year's tour and still put on an even better show.

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Re: If we could have Madrid 2001 pro dvd...
« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2009, 11:22:02 AM »
Tallgren,  I listen frequently to both the Red Rocks and Charlotte shows and SOS from both is as good as it ever was!   :)
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Re: If we could have Madrid 2001 pro dvd...
« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2009, 11:26:08 AM »

Surely you must agree though that MK's playing was devoid of all energy during the KtGC tour.  

No we don't have to agree, I don't.

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Re: If we could have Madrid 2001 pro dvd...
« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2009, 11:30:35 AM »
Hmm, well, the setlists weren't really the same in 2005, 2006 and 2008...

The 2005 set was the worst imo. During the ATRR tour, many songs of the new album were played, even Why worry was played again. 2008: MFN, bonaparte, were kicked. Cannibals, Hill farmer's blues, going home were played instead. Although I like Bonaparte, the 2008 set was not too bad imo. Unfortunately, DGTK didn't make it till the end... :(

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Re: If we could have Madrid 2001 pro dvd...
« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2009, 11:30:52 AM »
Tallgren, are you implying that TR is not technical!! ?   :o    I think Guy has said that TR is one of the most challenging songs and needs a lot of concentration!  ;)
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Re: If we could have Madrid 2001 pro dvd...
« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2009, 11:44:07 AM »
In 2008, I seem to remember that we were, in general, delighted with the set-list.   We had Cannibals, HFB, Marbletown, Devil Baby, albeit only once, Daddy's Gone to Knoxville a couple of times, TLWNF, The Fish & the Bird and Going Home!  All different from previous tours.  I would have liked more from  KTGC, but maybe next time!  ::)
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