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OfflineYorkshirePudding

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Re: That Ain't Workin' - My New Book
« Reply #105 on: April 17, 2025, 02:18:32 PM »
I kind of morphed into the solo ending on MFN over a few shows.
That's the other thing I massively regret (other than Sultans). I played it a few times and Mark never asked me to stop. Most nights it wasn't very good, I'm not a great soloist. Some nights it came off.
I was too scared to stop doing it after a while, I think would have been better had I never started it in the first place.
Those are the three things I regret.
The ending of MFN.
The bulldozer approach to Sultans.
The fact I didn't take Pick's style of playing seriously enough to understand it.

Other than that I am proud of my contribution to the OES tour and did the absolute best I could, under the circumstances.

I just went to youtube and searched for the MFN from the Nimes tv broadcast, as it's been many years I didn't see it. From my point of view the drum solo suits perfectly well not only the song but that exact part of the song, actually I forgot that during the solo the band played along faster and faster which made it quite a great ending for the song in my opinion.

Personally I thought the ending to MfN with the drums and then that keyboard loop was great, and it certainly sounded absolutely amazing live.

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Re: That Ain't Workin' - My New Book
« Reply #106 on: April 17, 2025, 05:52:20 PM »
I kind of morphed into the solo ending on MFN over a few shows.
That's the other thing I massively regret (other than Sultans). I played it a few times and Mark never asked me to stop. Most nights it wasn't very good, I'm not a great soloist. Some nights it came off.
I was too scared to stop doing it after a while, I think would have been better had I never started it in the first place.
Those are the three things I regret.
The ending of MFN.
The bulldozer approach to Sultans.
The fact I didn't take Pick's style of playing seriously enough to understand it.

Other than that I am proud of my contribution to the OES tour and did the absolute best I could, under the circumstances.
I read about the problems with the Pick era songs.
I saw you three times during the tour and you were great also because DS played so many different styles, so many different rhythms.
Your latest trick is opposite to The bug, Tunnel of love is opposite to Planet of New Orleans.
Withers' style was a mix of swing/jazz and always ended with little solos (just look at Rainbow and BBC), the music they played with him was the opposite of what DS played in 1992.
DS live shows from 1978-1981 were imperfect, but sublime for that reason.
From BIA onwards they tended towards perfection, MK had become like Roger Waters.
Two different planets.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2025, 05:58:47 PM by Jimbo »

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Re: That Ain't Workin' - My New Book
« Reply #107 on: April 17, 2025, 06:11:17 PM »
I agree with all of that.

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Re: That Ain't Workin' - My New Book
« Reply #108 on: April 17, 2025, 06:46:45 PM »
I agree with all of that.

Christ, I know things were bad, but surely comparing MK with Roger Waters is a step too far!
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Re: That Ain't Workin' - My New Book
« Reply #109 on: April 17, 2025, 07:23:26 PM »
IEM's probably make things better. But also Mark and John are old school. They came up through sweaty clubs. I did too.
There is a kind of energy you feel from drums if you stand in front of them. You can't really replicate it with monitors or IEMs.
I'm sure they could FEEL Terry on the BIA tour.
That's why we brought in the separate Sultans kit from USA onwards. However it was a compromise. I didn't have great monitoring and I was sat at head height right in front of Marks multiple guitar amps. I could barely hear what I was doing and that also contributed to my frantic, heavy handed way of playing the song.

Where exactly were the speaker cabs located on stage? I’ve always thought they were off stage..? Was they below the podiums, facing the front and covered by molton?

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Re: That Ain't Workin' - My New Book
« Reply #110 on: April 18, 2025, 08:34:37 AM »
Christ, I know things were bad, but surely comparing MK with Roger Waters is a step too far!


I didn't think I would be taken so literally. I don't actually mind Roger Waters. He comes across as difficult and IS apparently difficult.
Besides that one name check, the rest of the post was absolutely right from my experience.
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Re: That Ain't Workin' - My New Book
« Reply #111 on: April 18, 2025, 08:35:53 AM »

Where exactly were the speaker cabs located on stage?

Yes, hidden under the stage risers, pointing out towards Phil, Mark and John. It was loud!

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Re: That Ain't Workin' - My New Book
« Reply #112 on: April 18, 2025, 09:30:06 AM »
Christ, I know things were bad, but surely comparing MK with Roger Waters is a step too far!


I didn't think I would be taken so literally. I don't actually mind Roger Waters. He comes across as difficult and IS apparently difficult.
Besides that one name check, the rest of the post was absolutely right from my experience.


Was just having a bit of fun :)
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Re: That Ain't Workin' - My New Book
« Reply #113 on: April 18, 2025, 05:09:06 PM »
I agree with all of that.
Chris, I remember a stunning and extended live version of MFN, whose idea was it to end with that beautiful solo (which does not appear in OtN)?
Which were the most complex songs of the tour to perform?

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Re: That Ain't Workin' - My New Book
« Reply #114 on: April 18, 2025, 07:22:56 PM »
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