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Re: That Ain't Workin' - My New Book
« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2025, 11:15:49 PM »
Hi Chris,

Are you aware of these two methods offered by the Royal Mail to include duty fees when sending your book ?

https://www.royalmail.com/business/international/guide/delivered-duties-paid-ioss

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Re: That Ain't Workin' - My New Book
« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2025, 11:18:24 PM »
No, because I have no idea what they would be.
I will value the book at £10 most times.
I have priced the packaging at various local post offices and they all came up with a different amount, so I've chosen the lower estimate and will probably end up paying more myself.
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Re: That Ain't Workin' - My New Book
« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2025, 08:38:02 AM »
Hi Chris,

Are you aware of these two methods offered by the Royal Mail to include duty fees when sending your book ?


Like I said, I'm likely eating some of the postage myself to keep the postage fees down.
Several of my books already sent cost £25 and £26 to ship to America, but I'm charging £20.
And does anyone pay import taxes on a £10 book? I don't think so.

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Re: That Ain't Workin' - My New Book
« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2025, 09:24:37 AM »
Hi Chris,

Are you aware of these two methods offered by the Royal Mail to include duty fees when sending your book ?


Like I said, I'm likely eating some of the postage myself to keep the postage fees down.
Several of my books already sent cost £25 and £26 to ship to America, but I'm charging £20.
And does anyone pay import taxes on a £10 book? I don't think so.

I would recommend anyone to be gentle and if shipping costs are higher than you pay, when receive the book send an additional payment, I think that's fair. I know Chris is going to say NO to this, but please consider to be gentle.
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Re: That Ain't Workin' - My New Book
« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2025, 09:26:40 AM »
More details:
Payments to PayPal:
thataintworkin@icloud.com

£55 plus add your postage. Do message me or email to: thataintworkin@icloud.com
I'm doing this on my own, signing, packing and shipping, so I may miss a payment unless you notify me.


is it time restricted? or do you pla to kkep signing and posting for a while?
any Knopfler, Floyd or Dylan will do....

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Re: That Ain't Workin' - My New Book
« Reply #35 on: April 14, 2025, 09:26:54 AM »
oh and before i forget, MUST HAVE THIS....
any Knopfler, Floyd or Dylan will do....

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Re: That Ain't Workin' - My New Book
« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2025, 09:27:20 AM »
Thanks Jules.
I'm ok with the postage quoted. I was shocked how much it was, although the package with the book inside weighs 700g.
I'll probably be contributing £3 to £6 for each postage, but that's OK.
No need for anyone to offer extra, unless it's for multiple books.

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Re: That Ain't Workin' - My New Book
« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2025, 09:30:26 AM »
is it time restricted? or do you pla to kkep signing and posting for a while?

I have a few hundred books printed. I don't think they will all sell in the next few weeks. In any case, it takes me a long time to package them and post, so I can't process dozens of books per day.
If this print run sells out I may print more, but that depends if it takes months to sell what I already have or if demand is higher.
It isn't a limited edition.
I haven't really told everyone about the book yet, AMIT was first.

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Re: That Ain't Workin' - My New Book
« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2025, 09:32:22 AM »
is it time restricted? or do you pla to kkep signing and posting for a while?

I have a few hundred books printed. I don't think they will all sell in the next few weeks. In any case, it takes me a long time to package them and post, so I can't process dozens of books per day.
If this print run sells out I may print more, but that depends if it takes months to sell what I already have or if demand is higher.
It isn't a limited edition.
I haven't really told everyone about the book yet, AMIT was first.

Well, we all amiters spread the word around the internet!
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Re: That Ain't Workin' - My New Book
« Reply #39 on: April 14, 2025, 01:01:57 PM »
Hi Chris,

Are you aware of these two methods offered by the Royal Mail to include duty fees when sending your book ?


Like I said, I'm likely eating some of the postage myself to keep the postage fees down.
Several of my books already sent cost £25 and £26 to ship to America, but I'm charging £20.
And does anyone pay import taxes on a £10 book? I don't think so.

French VAT is applicable from the first euro
Problem for buyer  : the third party that collect VAT will charges additional fees for collecting with of course a fixed minimum fee.

I give you a practical exemple :

Book custom value (corrected) :  £55
VAT on book - RATE 5.5% (corrected) : £3.06
Shipping £10
VAT on shipping - RATE 20% : £2
Custom : £0 (european exemption for value under 150€)
Third party fee for collecting VAT and Custom :
Using "LA POSTE"
 When paying online, the handling fee is €2 (£1.70)  or €5 (£4.30) depending on the type of shipment. (which is probably the cheaper third party method)
 When paying with the postman or at your collection point, the handling fee is €8 (£6.90).

So depending of the method the extra third party fees are between £1.70 and £6.90 using La Poste . It can be even more using other shipping company.

That is just a crazy system  and a hassle for everybody (buyer and seller) doing business.

« Last Edit: April 14, 2025, 07:49:29 PM by ds1984 »
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Re: That Ain't Workin' - My New Book
« Reply #40 on: April 14, 2025, 01:40:28 PM »
The price is £55.
Postage in Europe is £10, which so far has often been less than the actual postage.

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Re: That Ain't Workin' - My New Book
« Reply #41 on: April 14, 2025, 05:05:47 PM »
I haven't really told everyone about the book yet, AMIT was first.

I shared the info on web, FB, Insta, X, and even LinkedIn

I hope it will give you more orders :)

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Re: That Ain't Workin' - My New Book
« Reply #42 on: April 14, 2025, 06:16:08 PM »

I shared the info on web, FB, Insta, X, and even LinkedIn

I hope it will give you more orders :)

Thank you so much.

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Re: That Ain't Workin' - My New Book
« Reply #43 on: April 14, 2025, 07:51:52 PM »
I worked as a photographer for many years and when I buy books from other photographers at galleries, they often cost more. Chris does not have to justify any cost, to anyone.

To question the amount of time or money put into the production is missing the point, however “well intended”. He wasn’t working for an hourly rate, nor should he or other artists have to justify costs in that way. He can charge what he likes. It’s a unique book that someone will VALUE themselves, if they want it.

I’ve felt before that some people on this forum also view all of DS work more as “consumables” and perhaps don’t seem to view them as creative works, made by all the creatives involved.

Chris has been realistic and upfront on getting things shipped, which should be enough in itself. It’s unfair to focus in on his shipping costs and potentially bog him down in admin, over a few quid. All of which is frankly beneath him in my view. On the contrary, he has gone out of his way to help.

From an archival perspective, Chris’ images are also a valuable record of that time. Film can degrade over the years, hence I questioned Ed last year on whether he knew if the unused Alchemy footage was all accounted for, as I feel that it would be prudent to have it all scanned at least for archival purposes, even if not to be released, akin to how a photo agency or museum would archive historic pieces, to avoid further degradation. Black and white film tends to be more stable, though colour film dyes can fade over the years depending on storage conditions. So, well done Chris for being proactive and getting your work collated and archived. It must have been a lot of work but I’m sure rewarding to hold the printed book in your hands.

Archiving the images is priceless.

Very well done on a beautiful looking book and getting it realised.

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Re: That Ain't Workin' - My New Book
« Reply #44 on: April 14, 2025, 07:55:35 PM »

I shared the info on web, FB, Insta, X, and even LinkedIn

I hope it will give you more orders :)

Thank you so much.

Hi Chris,

Knew about it thanks to JF post on both his blog and LinkedIn.
I ordered it today and I'm looking forward to receive it.
It's me who asked you to send it to a UK adress as my best friend is currently there.
Will save me the 10£ postage  ;)

Greetings from Belgium

 

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