The guy that recorded a RAH 2005 concert through MK´s ear-in

[peterromer]

Hi
Many years ago at a RAH concert (maybe in 2005?) a guy "hacked" the direct ear-in source for Mr. Knopfler during a sound-check, left it open and recorded the show. 
I guess he uploaded his high quality recording somewhere and was reported to MK Management. It was something like both Guy (and especially) Mark was so pissed that someone would think of doing so. From there the story dies off for me
What happened to the guy ?     Did he receive a warning?   was he sued ?

[Jules]

He was pointed by the finger of death.

Probably he's still recovering.

LOL

It was in 2008 and he recorded two concerts at the RAH, probably more in other venues.

[Chris W]

Also, in ear monitoring is very different to the out front mix.
I don't know what Mark has, probably not much guitar and a $hit load of vocal.
I usually have bass drum, a little bass, lead guitar and vocal. No kit, no keyboards, no rhythm guitars.

[Robson]

I don't know this particular story, but didn't this also happen in Boothbay Harbor in 2006?

[dustyvalentino]

You can still enjoy the whole incident and fallout

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/mknewsforum/first-2008-soundboard-recording-spoiler-rah-last-n-t1416.html?sid=881ae39ffaaa4aeaec478defadf8416e

[dustyvalentino]

I don't know this particular story, but didn't this also happen in Boothbay Harbor in 2006?

Whoever recorded that was smarter than the RAH guy...

[Robson]

I don't know this particular story, but didn't this also happen in Boothbay Harbor in 2006?

Whoever recorded that was smarter than the RAH guy...

 

[peterromer]

You can still enjoy the whole incident and fallout

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/mknewsforum/first-2008-soundboard-recording-spoiler-rah-last-n-t1416.html?sid=881ae39ffaaa4aeaec478defadf8416e

Thanks for that interesting read.  Even Guy himself replied.
 

[Love Expresso]

There is an IEM recording of Boothbay indeed which is nice to have and I know about at least one other 2008 show.

LE

[Chris W]

This story is exactly the same one I've told before. Artists do not want unauthorised recordings to be shared.
If this IS an IEM capture, it is 99.995% likely it doesn't reflect the sound the audience hears. IEMs and monitoring are a very specific thing.
My monitors are extremely unbalanced and sound nothing like a record, or what I hope the audience is experiencing.
Also, again, a lot 'entitled' chatter on that thread - if bands don't want illicit recordings to be shared, they should release unedited versions of the live show?
First, it's not possible logistically. Second, a live show is a LIVE show. It isn't a record.
For anyone who started playing live before the internet and iPhones, it was a communion between artist and audience. Nowadays you are playing to a majority of people holding iPhones in the air, concentrating more on their exposure, the camera angle, than they are on just enjoying the show.
Some artists ask people not to record the show on an iPhone and for the most part this is respected.
Which is great!

[JF]

there is also an IEM recording of LA 2001 with Bonnie Raitt as a guest

[olazabalrok]

Well isn’t it about time to release these for everyone via Tracker or Unlimited? Since they ain’t touring no more they can’t ban further audience recordings.

[JF]

This story is exactly the same one I've told before. Artists do not want unauthorised recordings to be shared.
If this IS an IEM capture, it is 99.995% likely it doesn't reflect the sound the audience hears. IEMs and monitoring are a very specific thing.
My monitors are extremely unbalanced and sound nothing like a record, or what I hope the audience is experiencing.
Also, again, a lot 'entitled' chatter on that thread - if bands don't want illicit recordings to be shared, they should release unedited versions of the live show?
First, it's not possible logistically. Second, a live show is a LIVE show. It isn't a record.
For anyone who started playing live before the internet and iPhones, it was a communion between artist and audience. Nowadays you are playing to a majority of people holding iPhones in the air, concentrating more on their exposure, the camera angle, than they are on just enjoying the show.
Some artists ask people not to record the show on an iPhone and for the most part this is respected.
Which is great!

I understand your point Chris, and your are right about "live experience" and "enjoying the moment"

BUT, on the other hand, videos of a show, even if they are amateurish, can bring memories, and even more, some stuff for the ones who didn't attend the shows.
I am glad to see some gigs that I couldn't attend

And when I write and publish live reports, I have often comments by people who says thanks for bringing some sounds ands images from the show. they are grateful for seeing things that they couldn't attend.

Sometimes they says "it's almost like we were there"

so I'd say there are both sides of the situation

[Chris W]

so I'd say there are both sides of the situation

As I've said before - it has changed the artist performance. You know everything you are doing is going straight up on to Youtube for global consumption. Also, it changes the performance from the stage as you look out and see a sea of mobile phones INSTEAD of happy smiling faces fully engaged in the music.

[Jules]

This story is exactly the same one I've told before. Artists do not want unauthorised recordings to be shared.
If this IS an IEM capture, it is 99.995% likely it doesn't reflect the sound the audience hears. IEMs and monitoring are a very specific thing.
My monitors are extremely unbalanced and sound nothing like a record, or what I hope the audience is experiencing.
Also, again, a lot 'entitled' chatter on that thread - if bands don't want illicit recordings to be shared, they should release unedited versions of the live show?
First, it's not possible logistically. Second, a live show is a LIVE show. It isn't a record.
For anyone who started playing live before the internet and iPhones, it was a communion between artist and audience. Nowadays you are playing to a majority of people holding iPhones in the air, concentrating more on their exposure, the camera angle, than they are on just enjoying the show.
Some artists ask people not to record the show on an iPhone and for the most part this is respected.
Which is great!

In the case of the IEM recordings we have, the sound is well balanced and all the instruments can be heard well, one of them is a bit higher, usually the vocals and MK guitar when it comes from his signal, but we are lucky about them, as I know these kind of recrdings exists of other artists and are pure crap as they comes from very specific mixes from, for example, the bass, where eeverythig is very low except the bass and similar stuff.