Dire Straits - When It Comes To You (Live in Nîmes, France / 1992 / Visualiser)

[Chris W]

Funny, Because I've actually been defending Mark for most of this thread.
Oh well 

[wayaman]

Am I the only one who finds CW's posts extremely annoying and evidently full of irritation towards the person the forum is dedicated to?

Don't leave reality spoils your dream

[dustyvalentino]

Am I the only one who finds CW's posts extremely annoying and evidently full of irritation towards the person the forum is dedicated to?

Brief history lesson about how this forum came about if I may.

There used to be an official forum where even the slightest of criticism was not tolerated.

This forum was established to allow free and full discussion in a respectful way. I must say, I don’t think any of us ever imagined that an actual member of Dire Straits would join to talk about their real life experience being in the band for the best part of two years, or indeed the Dire Straits manager who was there from start to finish.

Rather than being annoyed, I’m extremely grateful for this input.

An actual member of Dire Straits answering questions? I’m tempted to say “you don’t know you’re born”…

[Love Expresso]

Am I the only one who finds CW's posts extremely annoying and evidently full of irritation towards the person the forum is dedicated to?

Obviously yes.

I guess you are just not used to a guy who delivers absolute clear thoughts and first hand knowledge, seldomly opinions, practically no trash talk and who is after the facts only. Humour might lacking (seemingly) which sometimes leads to a somewhat cold atmosphere around his posts, but if you are really honest to yourself you cannot nail a single post where Chris said something about MK that was not true. Worshipping is just not his thing, it seems. And why should he. However 90% of members come here to take a daily bath in a lot of hot MK love and feel comfortable among others to dive deep into praising our hero.

I for my part think that the forum has become much more relevant since Ed and Chris decided to post here on a more or less regular base.

I feel uncomfortable to write  about a guy and knowing that he will read it. But I did it to point out the fact that I don't like it and to mirror the way you wrote. We better should talk WITH each other, not about others. Just my two cents.

LE

[Elin N]

Honest question; who are these 90% which you claim bath in hot MK love? I don't see a single one, and very, VERY seldom read anything even near that. None of us thinks MK behaved like an angel!! Geeez, can we move forward??!

[ds1984]

To go back to OES I remember that Mark objected songs on this album being too much cynical.

Recently Mark even said that MFN lyrics were kind of unfair toward working class people.
He could wrote a song about that on his next album.

[Love Expresso]

Honest question; who are these 90% which you claim bath in hot MK love? I don't see a single one, and very, VERY seldom read anything even near that. None of us thinks MK behaved like an angel!! Geeez, can we move forward??!

Do you want me to list the names here?

"Can we move forward". Nobody prevents you from posting more interesting stuff if you are bored by this.

LE
 

[Robson]

To go back to OES I remember that Mark objected songs on this album being too much cynical.

Recently Mark even said that MFN lyrics were kind of unfair toward working class people.
He could wrote a song about that on his next album.

If I remember correctly, Mark said he wouldn't write Money For Nothing today.

[Elin N]

(thanks ds1984 :-)  He probably had a lot of dark things to get off his chest, and felt he had to excuse it? Of course it is only my feelings and not facts, but for me the difference in mood from OES to Golden heart is huge. "Darling pretty" is love flowing over, you can't help but smile, it is such a happy song! It is said that bad things makes great songs, and I think that is the case for OES. "When it comes to you" was an instant favorite, same with You and your friend and also Iron hand.

[Chris W]

I really like 'When It Comes To You'.
I haven't said anything 'bad' about Mark in this thread.
When people started saying Dire Straits should release all the outtakes and unreleased video and music, I just explained why I thought mark hadn't already and probably wouldn't going forward.
It isn't anything negative about Mark. At the time of the OES tour I think he had already moved on from a 'band' and was eager to go solo.
He was excited to explore new avenues instead of playing the same songs that he'd been playing for 10-15 years.
If you find that so negative you can't take it....then I'm sorry.

[Robson]

Chris, what do you think of Fade To Black? A very dark song, but I can't imagine it missing from the album on every street.

[Chris W]

I like it.
Tough one for me to play. I'm not great with brushes or a jazz feel.
I like a lot of the songs on OES, which is why I ended up doing the tour. The songs 'On Every Street', 'You And Your Friend' and 'Calling Elvis', plus WICTY.

[Robson]

I like it.
Tough one for me to play. I'm not great with brushes or a jazz feel.
I like a lot of the songs on OES, which is why I ended up doing the tour. The songs 'On Every Street', 'You And Your Friend' and 'Calling Elvis', plus WICTY.

 

Thanks for all your memories Chris. The bitter ones too.

I wrote once before but today again: never would I have thought that I would live to see the time when my questions would be answered by the DRUMMER of dIRE sTRAITS 

[Chris W]

Like I said, I've moved on. I don't think about the bad things much any more, unless someone brings them up.

[quizzaciously]

None of the things you mention have anything to do with luck or lack of luck. Apart from the death of his father - which was sad, but something that everyone has to experience - everything else was the result of Mark's own choices. (OK, I'm speculating about the divorce, but anyone who's been or is married knows it takes two to tango ...)

Yes, pretty much everything except the death of his father. It also wasn't 'the worst tour' or 'worst album'.
I'm sure Mark was very happy with OES, it just wasn't as big a hit as BIA. I'm sure Mark regretted agreeing to the tour once it became a reality, but at the same time it netted Mark and John millions and they walked out to 25,000-60,000 people screaming adulation most nights.

But Ed said something along the lines of; Mark said: "I've made a crappy record". And it clearly wasn't as big as BIA. And the tour was "strange", to say the least. So I don't know, guys. I still think... Well, maybe it wasn't "unlucky", it's the wrong word for it, but it certainly wasn't the best time to be Mark Knopfler. Don't you think?