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Lindes sad departure (Ed's view?)
« on: October 14, 2024, 04:54:07 AM »
Good evening folks,
Was this ever answered properly? Don't think so.

I do like Ed - what a legend, but bless him he's not some indistructable Cockroach. He will only answer questions on his terms and according to his memory which is absolutely fine and full credit to him for giving one side of what could only be described as 8 (dimentional) views...however back to my point what was his answer regarding Lindes?


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Re: Lindes sad departure (Ed's view?)
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2024, 10:00:27 AM »
Good evening folks,
Was this ever answered properly? Don't think so.

I do like Ed - what a legend, but bless him he's not some indistructable Cockroach. He will only answer questions on his terms and according to his memory which is absolutely fine and full credit to him for giving one side of what could only be described as 8 (dimentional) views...however back to my point what was his answer regarding Lindes?

I think he said it was partially answered in John's book?
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Re: Lindes sad departure (Ed's view?)
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2024, 10:40:07 AM »
And why sad? People come and go.

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Re: Lindes sad departure (Ed's view?)
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2025, 04:33:59 AM »
And why sad? People come and go.

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Well yeah, that's what you think but often with reason... sometimes justified sometimes not.

In a Terry Williams audio interview a few years ago he was asked about that Brothers In Arms era and was about to tell a story regarding Hal (and the guitarists featured on the BIA album)... I remember Terry suddenly changing tone, and saying "because there is another guitarist on this... Hal Lindes, poor old Hal....not sure if I should say this" and then Williams' answer was suddenly edited/cut. Obviously for a reason. The fact that Ed hasn't replied to my original question directly must mean he either cannot remember or it's quite personal, so weirdly, and I know it looks like i've been prying, although for good reason like the majority of posters on here, i'll leave it. Some things sometimes are better off left alone.

So in regards to the posters on this forum, don't be so naive. That's my advice.

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Re: Lindes sad departure (Ed's view?)
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2025, 08:45:43 AM »
Hal always said that he wanted to pursue a career writing music for movies, after his experience working in the Local Hero soundtrack, but according the credits only plays in "Freeway Flyer". Actually it's what he did after leaving DS.

Also John made some references during his concerts of the "Dire Straits History" or whatever that tour was called, to Hal leaving and apparently, besides what John says in his book, there were musical differences too that made everything difficult, a friend of mine from the UK that attended his local gig told me that John said something like that, very briefly,  without giving more details. Actually I was surprised that John didn't said that in his book as it seems a more logic and "light" reason for Hal to leave, and instead told the story about the girlfriend and the dinners just inviting MK and John... but as LE says, people in bands come and go by different reasons.

About the "sad" calificative, I guess it's because of the great dynamics that the band had with him during the Alchemy era, but in my opinion that was even better with Jack in the band, so in that terms, Hal leaving was more happy than sad.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2025, 09:00:23 AM by Jules »
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Re: Lindes sad departure (Ed's view?)
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2025, 10:42:39 AM »
Bear in mind that being the second guitar to Mark Knopfler has got to be the hardest gig in music.
It's like being the second pianist to Oscar Petersen or second drummer to Buddy Rich.

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Re: Lindes sad departure (Ed's view?)
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2025, 10:54:57 AM »
Bear in mind that being the second guitar to Mark Knopfler has got to be the hardest gig in music.
It's like being the second pianist to Oscar Petersen or second drummer to Buddy Rich.
valid point. just look at poor Phil.
still, he was (regularly if i am not mistaken) seen at MK solo shows at the RAH no?
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Re: Lindes sad departure (Ed's view?)
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2025, 10:56:17 AM »
also, not sure if it has been asked, but Chris, have you ever been to an MK solo show? would imagine not, but one never knows.
also, who from that world are you still connected with? can i assume Robbie Mcintosh? (he has done quite a few promo shows with Mark as well as the 2002 gigs)
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Re: Lindes sad departure (Ed's view?)
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2025, 11:12:54 AM »
Bear in mind that being the second guitar to Mark Knopfler has got to be the hardest gig in music.
It's like being the second pianist to Oscar Petersen or second drummer to Buddy Rich.
valid point. just look at poor Phil.
still, he was (regularly if i am not mistaken) seen at MK solo shows at the RAH no?

Hal Lindes has been at least in the last MK tours at the RAH, I talked with him during the last one about the song "My Bacon Roll" (actually Hal asked me about MY opinion about the song) and also he was with MK at the lauch party of John's book.

I remember also pictures of Guy and Hal together.
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Re: Lindes sad departure (Ed's view?)
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2025, 11:26:34 AM »
Bear in mind that being the second guitar to Mark Knopfler has got to be the hardest gig in music.
It's like being the second pianist to Oscar Petersen or second drummer to Buddy Rich.
valid point. just look at poor Phil.
still, he was (regularly if i am not mistaken) seen at MK solo shows at the RAH no?

Hal Lindes has been at least in the last MK tours at the RAH, I talked with him during the last one about the song "My Bacon Roll" (actually Hal asked me about MY opinion about the song) and also he was with MK at the lauch party of John's book.

I remember also pictures of Guy and Hal together.
exactly, does not sound like a negative breakup like some others have experienced with Mark.
any Knopfler, Floyd or Dylan will do....

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Re: Lindes sad departure (Ed's view?)
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2025, 11:28:57 AM »
Bear in mind that being the second guitar to Mark Knopfler has got to be the hardest gig in music.
It's like being the second pianist to Oscar Petersen or second drummer to Buddy Rich.
valid point. just look at poor Phil.
still, he was (regularly if i am not mistaken) seen at MK solo shows at the RAH no?

Hal Lindes has been at least in the last MK tours at the RAH, I talked with him during the last one about the song "My Bacon Roll" (actually Hal asked me about MY opinion about the song) and also he was with MK at the lauch party of John's book.

I remember also pictures of Guy and Hal together.

And what did you say? If it's not a secret :)
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Now come on woman, come follow me home

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Re: Lindes sad departure (Ed's view?)
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2025, 12:16:07 PM »
Bear in mind that being the second guitar to Mark Knopfler has got to be the hardest gig in music.
It's like being the second pianist to Oscar Petersen or second drummer to Buddy Rich.
valid point. just look at poor Phil.
still, he was (regularly if i am not mistaken) seen at MK solo shows at the RAH no?

Hal Lindes has been at least in the last MK tours at the RAH, I talked with him during the last one about the song "My Bacon Roll" (actually Hal asked me about MY opinion about the song) and also he was with MK at the lauch party of John's book.

I remember also pictures of Guy and Hal together.

And what did you say? If it's not a secret :)

That I liked it and liked the message behind it, which is probably the reason why he asked me about it, as the song talks (MK dixit) about a Brexiter.
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Re: Lindes sad departure (Ed's view?)
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2025, 12:19:12 PM »
Bear in mind that being the second guitar to Mark Knopfler has got to be the hardest gig in music.
It's like being the second pianist to Oscar Petersen or second drummer to Buddy Rich.
valid point. just look at poor Phil.
still, he was (regularly if i am not mistaken) seen at MK solo shows at the RAH no?

Hal Lindes has been at least in the last MK tours at the RAH, I talked with him during the last one about the song "My Bacon Roll" (actually Hal asked me about MY opinion about the song) and also he was with MK at the lauch party of John's book.

I remember also pictures of Guy and Hal together.

And what did you say? If it's not a secret :)

That I liked it and liked the message behind it, which is probably the reason why he asked me about it, as the song talks (MK dixit) about a Brexiter.

 :thumbsup Yes, it's a good song.
I know the way I can see by the moonlight
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Now come on woman, come follow me home

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Re: Lindes sad departure (Ed's view?)
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2025, 01:41:23 PM »
Bear in mind that being the second guitar to Mark Knopfler has got to be the hardest gig in music.
It's like being the second pianist to Oscar Petersen or second drummer to Buddy Rich.

But why exactly? Because of Mark's high expectations (are they so much higher than other A-list artists?)? Or do you refer to Mark's personality? Buddy Rich for instance could be downright nasty to his band. This may have applied to Mark in the past, but I don't think Richard Bennett for instance would have stuck with Mark for nearly 30 years if that were the case after disbanding DS. Or is there something musically that makes it particularly challenging?

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Re: Lindes sad departure (Ed's view?)
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2025, 03:15:14 PM »
Chris will speak for himself, but I would imagine it would be difficult for a top, pro level guitar player to sit doing basic chords while MK is showing off with the widdly bits :)
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