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Author Topic: Rough and Rowdy Ways  (Read 6332 times)

OfflinePottel

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any Knopfler, Floyd or Dylan will do....

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Re: Rough and Rowdy Ways
« Reply #32 on: August 20, 2024, 03:17:10 PM »
 :lol

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Re: Rough and Rowdy Ways
« Reply #33 on: August 20, 2024, 03:45:32 PM »
It's funny how we argue about art. (in our case, music)
Each artist has his own language and landscapes.
I cannot imagine MK doing hard politics lyrics or making public statements like Roger Waters do.
Of course, other artists music resonates diferent than MK's music. So, we kind of desire that MK's songs resonates with us like Bob's. But are diferents landscapes.

Bob is an acid artist. So, his songs and pallets sounds like Bob's personality.
Mark, after MM, turned himself a polited and soft-paced musician.

This could turn to be a long discussion.

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Re: Rough and Rowdy Ways
« Reply #34 on: August 20, 2024, 04:05:27 PM »
One of reasons for me to open the thread was how RARW can sound SO exceptionally good compared to ODR although there is all this BG hype.

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Re: Rough and Rowdy Ways
« Reply #35 on: August 20, 2024, 05:38:54 PM »
One of reasons for me to open the thread was how RARW can sound SO exceptionally good compared to ODR although there is all this BG hype.

LE

I just googled and apparently RARW was recorded at the legendary Sound City Studios.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_City_Studios

Also, according to this database, RARW has great dynamics:

https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/188722

Compared to ODR:

https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/209017

I asked GF about loudness a while back and he said they don't care about it.

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Re: Rough and Rowdy Ways
« Reply #36 on: August 20, 2024, 06:03:06 PM »
Thanks, interesting!

I can tell you that I care about it..

To be honest, DTRW and ODR just  don't sound good to MY!!!! ears . I have plenty of stuff on vinyl from many other artists that give me the WOW effect all the time, but Mark's latest releases doesn't. And RARW had this Wow effect. Don't want to spoil ODR for anyone or be the Party pooper but that's my opinion..

LE
« Last Edit: August 20, 2024, 06:13:19 PM by Love Expresso »
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Re: Rough and Rowdy Ways
« Reply #37 on: August 20, 2024, 06:45:11 PM »
Thanks, interesting!

I can tell you that I care about it..

To be honest, DTRW and ODR just  don't sound good to MY!!!! ears . I have plenty of stuff on vinyl from many other artists that give me the WOW effect all the time, but Mark's latest releases doesn't. And RARW had this Wow effect. Don't want to spoil ODR for anyone or be the Party pooper but that's my opinion..

LE

I have the exact same feeling.
Seems that BG is the best and the worse at the same time.

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Re: Rough and Rowdy Ways
« Reply #38 on: August 20, 2024, 07:29:10 PM »
Thanks, interesting!

I can tell you that I care about it..

To be honest, DTRW and ODR just  don't sound good to MY!!!! ears . I have plenty of stuff on vinyl from many other artists that give me the WOW effect all the time, but Mark's latest releases doesn't. And RARW had this Wow effect. Don't want to spoil ODR for anyone or be the Party pooper but that's my opinion..

LE

I have the exact same feeling.
Seems that BG is the best and the worse at the same time.

Or let's be more specific.. if course it's not BG but Guy's production at BG...

LE
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Re: Rough and Rowdy Ways
« Reply #39 on: August 20, 2024, 08:41:32 PM »
Or let's be more specific.. if course it's not BG but Guy's production at BG...

LE

HA!

There is a Frampton tune recorded at BG.
2006 - Fingerprints (one of my fav instrumental rock albums)
https://open.spotify.com/intl-pt/track/1XS9dFFdxd7eE826LLsSI7?si=9e398632b0d041d1
The Who WHO and Clapton's I Still Do albums was recorded. Among others.
Note that the same dull mixing are present in all of them. Since 2006!
They say that BG has the best gear on planet. But, Seems to me that the rooms (Studio A and B) are both dead.

To my ears, there is a lack of punch for BG recordings.
Maybe this was one of the reasons that John Illsley moved to record his lastest album on Real World Studios (or was Scott McKeon's idea)

Sonically, the best MK work is Shangri-la.
Especially the drums. Man, they're alive.

Tracker and ODR are the best sounding BG recordings.
DTRW is a mess.

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Re: Rough and Rowdy Ways
« Reply #40 on: August 20, 2024, 09:18:45 PM »
I think KTGC album sounds beautiful too. It has a unique depth.
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Re: Rough and Rowdy Ways
« Reply #41 on: August 23, 2024, 06:47:43 PM »
Ps. I prefer the album "Slow Train Coming" Today is the anniversary of its release.

yes indeed.
I come a bit late on the forum but here is my chronicle published on tuesday : https://textes-blog-rock-n-roll.fr/il-y-a-45-ans-bob-dylan-affichait-sa-conversion-au-christianisme/

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Re: Rough and Rowdy Ways
« Reply #42 on: August 23, 2024, 08:52:32 PM »
Ps. I prefer the album "Slow Train Coming" Today is the anniversary of its release.

yes indeed.
I come a bit late on the forum but here is my chronicle published on tuesday : https://textes-blog-rock-n-roll.fr/il-y-a-45-ans-bob-dylan-affichait-sa-conversion-au-christianisme/

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Re: Rough and Rowdy Ways
« Reply #43 on: August 27, 2024, 06:36:55 PM »
If music (and art in general) were just about getting political messages across, both Bob and Mark should have become politicians. I think it's much more about the sharing of feelings, though. By writing a song, you're communicating: This is how I'm feeling about this or that. With any luck, other people will feel the same, and that's rewarding for both the author and the audience. Both realize that they're not alone in how they feel about the world. That,I think, is about the best thing art can achieve.

Oh, and Dusty, you must have been kidding. Of course Mark Knopfler is a master of his craft. Why else would you spend so much time on a forum dedicated to him, and even found the forum in the first place?

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Re: Rough and Rowdy Ways
« Reply #44 on: August 28, 2024, 10:05:36 PM »
I’m a fan but I’m also a realist.

Dire Straits are my favourite band but I would never try to argue that they were the greatest band ever.
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