Random reflexions about Dire Straits tours

[Chris W]

Yeah, I think that was the university sports hall that felt out of place on this kind of rock tour.
I din't think it was full either.
The DS tour played a lot of towns and venues in North America I'd never played before or since, which made it feel long, especially as it was deep winter, cold and grey most days.

[wayaman]

Yeah, I think that was the university sports hall that felt out of place on this kind of rock tour.
I din't think it was full either.
The DS tour played a lot of towns and venues in North America I'd never played before or since, which made it feel long, especially as it was deep winter, cold and grey most days.

I think I read somewhere that because of snow some gigs were close to be cancelled as it was very difficult to get to the venues, but can't remember exactly what happened, do you remember any issue with snowing during that leg of the tour?

[Chris W]

Ugh, the rumour mill.
No memories of snow in particular. Of course there was snow in the cities where snow is common, as such, these cities are prepared for bad weather and very little possibility of disruption.
There was absolutely no threat of any show being cancelled within the band. We were travelling almost every day too. If we could get to the gig, the audience could.

[dustyvalentino]

Chris, not sure if you’ve seen this, but there’s a funny moment when Metallica spot you guys on your private plane, 54.40 approx

https://youtu.be/052tZFi2gYU?si=cYcwW3ck-16i3rSc

[Pottel]

Chris, not sure if you’ve seen this, but there’s a funny moment when Metallica spot you guys on your private plane, 54.40 approx

https://youtu.be/052tZFi2gYU?si=cYcwW3ck-16i3rSc

dude, details! 53:44
on a somewhat related note, how do you rate Lars Ulrich's drumming Chris?

[shortfin]

Speaking of the OES Tour, I was struck by what Bicknell writes in one of the first replies. He says "[A regrettable decision was] Not resigning immediately over the decision by Mark to do the OES record and tour once I learned the REAL reasons behind that decision which in themselves led to it being the sad and toxic event it was for those involved (though not necessarily the audiences)."
What REAL reasons are you talking about? The decision that OES would have been the last album and the last tour, or is he referring to something else?

[dustyvalentino]

The real reason that MK did the album and tour.

Ed told us that he thought BiA should have been the end.

And Ed has told us that he can't reveal the real reason so all we can do is speculate.

[Love Expresso]

This is exactly the kind of thread that makes people like Chris leave.

However, OES has the most cynical lyrics from MK in his whole career and if you look at When It Comes To You, Fade To Black and You And Your Friend and also the title track, it is obvious that a broken relationship is the main theme, one where the narrator always adresses a third party in it and where MK seemed to be the one cheated on.
So I guess it was a dirty divorce with a lot of money being involved. Maybe MK invested so much private money into the tour to safe it from being split and put the profit into the DS company to make it unavailable for divorce lawyers... 

If we already know the details, I'm sorry. I am not too much into gossip.

Not too sure however if we really should open this can of worms...

LE

[shortfin]

This is exactly the kind of thread that makes people like Chris leave.

Why?

[Love Expresso]

Not so much the thread itself but the speculation thing
.
LE

[dustyvalentino]

Not so much the thread itself but the speculation thing
.
LE

Well we don't have the facts, and we likely never will, so if we want to discuss it then we will have to speculate.

[quizzaciously]

Man, this OES tour can really be renamed the "Can Of Worms" tour. There were so many mistakes, heartbreak, drama, sausages, and tears... Personally, I marvel at how they were able to pull it off at all considering all the drama. And NO WONDER nobody, including Mark, John and Ed is willing to give away secrets of what really happened.

Even if Ed can't talk or even joke about something, then it's dire. Stratis that is...

[Robson]

This is exactly the kind of thread that makes people like Chris leave.

However, OES has the most cynical lyrics from MK in his whole career and if you look at When It Comes To You, Fade To Black and You And Your Friend and also the title track, it is obvious that a broken relationship is the main theme, one where the narrator always adresses a third party in it and where MK seemed to be the one cheated on.
So I guess it was a dirty divorce with a lot of money being involved. Maybe MK invested so much private money into the tour to safe it from being split and put the profit into the DS company to make it unavailable for divorce lawyers... 

If we already know the details, I'm sorry. I am not too much into gossip.

Not too sure however if we really should open this can of worms...

LE

Yes, if you analyze the lyrics of On Every Street and Golden Heart, it's a completely different world. After 5 years, a big change.

[Pottel]

This is exactly the kind of thread that makes people like Chris leave.

Why?

mm, i saw him post recently. was not aware he "left"?

[Chris W]

I go away when people dispute my posts, people who weren't there, have never even been in a band or been on tour.

Overall, there is more wild conspiracy than facts on the forum, which is why Ed posted lengthy rebuttals and offered some very detailed info to you all.

The tour was the tour. A few wild conspiracies exist and although I haven't read the book, Phil Palmer's account seems to be exaggerated, probably because it makes for better reading and sells more books.
There was never a moment where Mark threatened the band members, or read us the riot act for not performing. there was a and meeting after one of the USA shows where he claimed we were under performing, but that was obvious (to us all) that he was frustrated about how the US tour was going, a very long segment with not many completely sold out shows.
The sausage incident was amusing to most of us. A couple of people were pissed off (nothing more) on the night and the next day it was basically forgotten.