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Re: A new book about MK
« Reply #75 on: April 10, 2025, 09:34:48 PM »
Well, I wanted to write "Gin" (I was probably thinking of Bob Dylan, with his own “Heaven's Door” whiskey) - but a spirit drink in any case.

And Mark sells tons of clothes (https://shop.markknopfler.com/product-category/merch/, if that's not a fashion line?)

But this is not meant as criticism at all; the point of this passage in the Book is that Mark is not a bad businessman and has skillfully (in a positive sense) managed his career (and that he certainly also received good, intelligent genes from his father, a chess grandmaster).

In other parts of the book, I emphasize several times that Mark and his entourage (compared to other superstars) are very moderate and fair (with really reasonable ticket prices at concerts, for example).
 
And: Yes, if you discover specific mistakes, feel free to report them, of course it helps (but only factual mistakes, not subjective assessments); at the moment there are already two: Brunno and Gin... :hmm

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Re: A new book about MK
« Reply #76 on: April 10, 2025, 09:46:20 PM »
Tough read? Hardly anyone manages more than 40 pages at a time. With Hank Marvin and Bert Weedon, the journey is just beginning. I hope you'll hold on later, dear Expresso Love ...
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Re: A new book about MK
« Reply #77 on: April 10, 2025, 10:57:11 PM »
Well, I wanted to write "Gin" (I was probably thinking of Bob Dylan, with his own “Heaven's Door” whiskey) - but a spirit drink in any case.

And Mark sells tons of clothes (https://shop.markknopfler.com/product-category/merch/, if that's not a fashion line?)

But this is not meant as criticism at all; the point of this passage in the Book is that Mark is not a bad businessman and has skillfully (in a positive sense) managed his career (and that he certainly also received good, intelligent genes from his father, a chess grandmaster).

In other parts of the book, I emphasize several times that Mark and his entourage (compared to other superstars) are very moderate and fair (with really reasonable ticket prices at concerts, for example).
 
And: Yes, if you discover specific mistakes, feel free to report them, of course it helps (but only factual mistakes, not subjective assessments); at the moment there are already two: Brunno and Gin... :hmm

Best,
Richard

Again, trying to be helpful, to you and in particular to your readers :)

A couple:

People from Glasgow are not called Scousers - that’s people from Liverpool.

Neil Young is from Canada.

Oh, and who is Robert Smitz?
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Re: A new book about MK
« Reply #78 on: April 10, 2025, 11:46:25 PM »
Oh, thanks a lot, Dusty Valentino, you have hawk eyes, that's pure gold!

Scousers: Yeah, that's bullshit, they're from Liverpool of course. I'll correct that: Glaswegians (or Weegies)

Neil Young: He is both, since 2020 he is a dual citizen. On page 158 I have written it correctly (US-Canadian), on page 34 I will add it.

Robert Smitz: Shit, a classic typo (Z and H are neighboring keys...), I mean of course Robert Smith (The Cure).

I hope you don't find another 758 things like that... ??? ; the money-back guarantee applies from 100 errors (the book contains nearly a million characters).

Thanks again!

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Re: A new book about MK
« Reply #79 on: April 11, 2025, 12:32:16 AM »
Ha ha! I won’t be asking for a refund, according to my kindle app I am 11% of the way through and I am enjoying it. :)

The Horner sold at auction was a second, similar guitar he bought and NOT his first guitar.

I believe the dobro sounds on You and Your Friend on the OES album are Paul Franklin on the Pedabro and not MK on the National.
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Re: A new book about MK
« Reply #80 on: April 11, 2025, 01:20:15 AM »
Are you sure about “You and Your Friend”? To me, it sounds a lot like a national or dobro (pretty low tuned), and it would be a slide style that Mark also masters (it doesn't sound like a lapsteel playing style to me). Of course, Paul Franklin could also play like that. Do you have exact credit information? I can't find any concrete information as to whether Paul Franklin (who was of course involved in the album) played on this song in the studio.

The red Höfner: I see now that you are right, thanks a lot. I have looked again at the extensive PDF catalog from the auction: On page 21, there is a picture of this beautiful old Höfner, "made in 1963", and Mark talks for a whole page about how his father bought him this guitar (around 1964). And then, towards the end, a discreet little hint that the guitar sold is in fact a duplicate of that guitar, bought later. Quite misleading, this communication... It's like sending a double on stage. :-\  So what, I have to rewrite the story a bit at this point, shit happens.

Thanks again!
Richard

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Re: A new book about MK
« Reply #81 on: April 11, 2025, 07:38:51 AM »
Ha ha! I won’t be asking for a refund, according to my kindle app I am 11% of the way through and I am enjoying it. :)

The Horner sold at auction was a second, similar guitar he bought and NOT his first guitar.

I believe the dobro sounds on You and Your Friend on the OES album are Paul Franklin on the Pedabro and not MK on the National.

Actually is not a dobro, nor a pedabro, but a box. Paul Franklin (or his dad) invented that, is literally a long wood box with a hole, Paul Franklin played it both in the record and live, you can see it in the video

https://youtu.be/ZxSMzg3DX0I?si=zm3Tkbok65oxQQ5c&t=12

Check the box solo here:

https://youtu.be/ZxSMzg3DX0I?si=oMQy_8X3kRl-WgHZ&t=277
« Last Edit: April 11, 2025, 07:41:15 AM by Jules »
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Re: A new book about MK
« Reply #82 on: April 11, 2025, 07:43:36 AM »
More info about Paul Franklin's box:

https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=278337

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Re: A new book about MK
« Reply #83 on: April 11, 2025, 07:48:47 AM »
Are you sure about “You and Your Friend”? To me, it sounds a lot like a national or dobro (pretty low tuned), and it would be a slide style that Mark also masters (it doesn't sound like a lapsteel playing style to me). Of course, Paul Franklin could also play like that. Do you have exact credit information? I can't find any concrete information as to whether Paul Franklin (who was of course involved in the album) played on this song in the studio.

The red Höfner: I see now that you are right, thanks a lot. I have looked again at the extensive PDF catalog from the auction: On page 21, there is a picture of this beautiful old Höfner, "made in 1963", and Mark talks for a whole page about how his father bought him this guitar (around 1964). And then, towards the end, a discreet little hint that the guitar sold is in fact a duplicate of that guitar, bought later. Quite misleading, this communication... It's like sending a double on stage. :-\  So what, I have to rewrite the story a bit at this point, shit happens.

Thanks again!
Richard

Seems I'm not needed for proofreading after all, hehehe
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Re: A new book about MK
« Reply #84 on: April 11, 2025, 07:51:59 AM »
Ha ha! I won’t be asking for a refund, according to my kindle app I am 11% of the way through and I am enjoying it. :)

The Horner sold at auction was a second, similar guitar he bought and NOT his first guitar.

I believe the dobro sounds on You and Your Friend on the OES album are Paul Franklin on the Pedabro and not MK on the National.

Actually is not a dobro, nor a pedabro, but a box. Paul Franklin (or his dad) invented that, is literally a long wood box with a hole, Paul Franklin played it both in the record and live, you can see it in the video

https://youtu.be/ZxSMzg3DX0I?si=zm3Tkbok65oxQQ5c&t=12

Check the box solo here:

https://youtu.be/ZxSMzg3DX0I?si=oMQy_8X3kRl-WgHZ&t=277


Thanks Jules, you da man!
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Re: A new book about MK
« Reply #85 on: April 11, 2025, 08:19:49 AM »
Ha ha! I won’t be asking for a refund, according to my kindle app I am 11% of the way through and I am enjoying it. :)

The Horner sold at auction was a second, similar guitar he bought and NOT his first guitar.

I believe the dobro sounds on You and Your Friend on the OES album are Paul Franklin on the Pedabro and not MK on the National.

Actually is not a dobro, nor a pedabro, but a box. Paul Franklin (or his dad) invented that, is literally a long wood box with a hole, Paul Franklin played it both in the record and live, you can see it in the video

https://youtu.be/ZxSMzg3DX0I?si=zm3Tkbok65oxQQ5c&t=12

Check the box solo here:

https://youtu.be/ZxSMzg3DX0I?si=oMQy_8X3kRl-WgHZ&t=277

It's indeed unique and referred to as "The Box" by Paul also. Also the whole idea of You And Your Friend musically is that duet (or dialogue) between Mark and Paul. Of course it's Paul playing.

And I doubt that selling cheap merch t-shirts (or badges and posters or stickers) would Mark make a fashion icon.

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Re: A new book about MK
« Reply #86 on: April 11, 2025, 09:18:52 AM »
Ha ha! I won’t be asking for a refund, according to my kindle app I am 11% of the way through and I am enjoying it. :)

The Horner sold at auction was a second, similar guitar he bought and NOT his first guitar.

I believe the dobro sounds on You and Your Friend on the OES album are Paul Franklin on the Pedabro and not MK on the National.

Actually is not a dobro, nor a pedabro, but a box. Paul Franklin (or his dad) invented that, is literally a long wood box with a hole, Paul Franklin played it both in the record and live, you can see it in the video

https://youtu.be/ZxSMzg3DX0I?si=zm3Tkbok65oxQQ5c&t=12

Check the box solo here:

https://youtu.be/ZxSMzg3DX0I?si=oMQy_8X3kRl-WgHZ&t=277

It's indeed unique and referred to as "The Box" by Paul also. Also the whole idea of You And Your Friend musically is that duet (or dialogue) between Mark and Paul. Of course it's Paul playing.

And I doubt that selling cheap merch t-shirts (or badges and posters or stickers) would Mark make a fashion icon.

LE

Agree, all musicians and bands have their own merchandise in his site so MK is not special at all regarding that, and even less a fashion icon.
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Re: A new book about MK
« Reply #87 on: April 11, 2025, 09:38:36 AM »
I've maybe inadvertently opened a can of worms here.

The book makes no claim of MK being a fashion icon (I can already imagine Ed laughing at this prospect). There is a reference to his business acumen and whiskey and a fashion line - I thought I maybe hadn't heard about the whiskey thing. When I think of a musician "running his own fashion line" I think of someone like Liam Gallagher or Ye or whatever rather than an artist selling merch, but Richard's take is equally valid.

For the record I am enjoying the book and will report back later!
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Re: A new book about MK
« Reply #88 on: April 11, 2025, 09:51:39 AM »
I've maybe inadvertently opened a can of worms here.

The book makes no claim of MK being a fashion icon (I can already imagine Ed laughing at this prospect). There is a reference to his business acumen and whiskey and a fashion line - I thought I maybe hadn't heard about the whiskey thing. When I think of a musician "running his own fashion line" I think of someone like Liam Gallagher or Ye or whatever rather than an artist selling merch, but Richard's take is equally valid.

For the record I am enjoying the book and will report back later!

I think fashion line is also too exagerated as all musicians and band have their own shop with all kind of merchandise, specially t-shirts.
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Re: A new book about MK
« Reply #89 on: April 11, 2025, 11:21:25 AM »
Oh, that's very interesting, thank you all, for the info about Paul Franklin (box). I knew that Paul (I admire Paul very much, by the way) played these parts on stage – but, and this misled me, the box sounds a little different on stage, and above all, he plays a lot more notes live than on the studio recording, and he plays things that are typical for a pedal-steeler (you hear blindly that this cannot be a bottleneck player). On the studio recording, the box sounds a bit “tinner”, reminiscent of a resonator instrument (studio microphones pick up the subtleties/overtones much more sensitively), and he plays fairly simple things that aren't typical of pedal-steel and could also be played using the slide technique. That's why (and because there are no official credits), I intuitively heard Mark on a Dobro/National (in the way he used to play with Steve Phillips). I'll be happy to change that sentence in the book (by the way, it's not about that song there, it's generally about Mark's love for resonator guitars).

Fashion: It's not mentioned in the book that he's a “fashion icon”. But Mark sells more clothing and various articles with his brand on them worldwide than any fashion store around the corner. He even established a look very early on with the red headband (the headband later even ended up on his own gin bottle); there were thousands of people worldwide who wore his headband, who wore the same sporty country shirt, etc. That is exactly the essence of a “fashion line” (as I called it in the book): when people become a brand through their appearance, inspiring others to imitate and giving them an identity. That is the essence of fashion. This is NOT a criticism of MK.

You will notice at various points in the book that, despite my great admiration for MK, I sometimes write with distance, humor or from a subjective perspective, things that a MK disciple might perceive as blasphemy. I was aware that I might face an icy headwind here and there on this forum (where there are people who would even “kill their mother to get an unreleased MK recording”, as I once read... ??? ) – that was clear to me. Nevertheless, I am very happy about our discussion here; I am tough enough, happy to be pointed to mistakes or typos (unfortunately, there is no book or daily newspaper in the world without mistakes). I know, appreciate and admire the fact that you guys know much more about certain details of MK.

The purpose of this book is to celebrate the music and the life's work of MK and to bring it to a wider audience; that's why I keep making larger arcs in the book without being able to go into certain small details with the necessary precision. If you had 10 years to spare, you could write a whole book about a single album (e.g. the debut album) with a thousand details. And just the proofreading would take a year or two; that would be great, but it's beyond my scope, unfortunately. Who knows how long I have left to live.

In any case, I am very grateful for your reading along! I will make a first update of the print data next week (it takes a week or two for the new data to be in stores), and I can also make such updates later continuously (I have already made 5 updates in the original German edition...).

By the way, I will be happy to mention your names in the English imprint as proofreaders and consultants – if you let me know how I should write your names exactly.

Best,
Richard

 

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