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MK silence on Gaza
« on: May 14, 2024, 08:20:35 AM »
He is silent (?) on Gaza. And I'm disappointed. Do I/we have a right to expect him to say smth about it? 

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Re: MK silence on Gaza
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2024, 09:38:38 AM »
I don't think you/we do/ He hasn't been known for being overtly political or speaking out about many issues throughout his career.

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Re: MK silence on Gaza
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2024, 10:00:12 AM »
No.   He is a musician not a politician.
Goin' into Tow Law....

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Re: MK silence on Gaza
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2024, 10:09:15 AM »
He is silent (?) on Gaza. And I'm disappointed. Do I/we have a right to expect him to say smth about it?

There is no we.
You have zero right to speak for me and zero right to expect MK to comment on something you think he should.

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Re: MK silence on Gaza
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2024, 10:21:17 AM »
Maybe you will not like what he has to say?
In that case will you change your mind?

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Re: MK silence on Gaza
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2024, 10:22:11 AM »
No.   He is a musician not a politician.

I agree but I also think he should be able to comment on whatever he wants to. Seems he doesn't feel the need to comment on this which is fine.
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Re: MK silence on Gaza
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2024, 10:24:56 AM »
Maybe you will not like what he has to say?
In that case will you change your mind?

This gets into the interesting question of separating the art from the artist. In my experience the more you like the artist the more you will excuse "questionable" aspects of their personality.
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Re: MK silence on Gaza
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2024, 10:41:11 AM »
He is silent (?) on Gaza. And I'm disappointed. Do I/we have a right to expect him to say smth about it?
Yes, of course you do. How dare Mark not comment on what is meaningful to Privinvest? You should cancel him very hard!

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Re: MK silence on Gaza
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2024, 11:36:21 AM »
For the record he didn't mention anything regarding October 7th. Were you also disappointed about his silence at that time as well, privinvest? I couldn't find anything similar about it in your posting history.

This feels like a thread that may spiral pretty quickly into something negative.

Considering a locked thread (edit: if it occurs)
« Last Edit: May 14, 2024, 01:44:40 PM by border_reiver »
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Re: MK silence on Gaza
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2024, 11:51:01 AM »
People have spoken about MK so far without getting into anything nasty I think...
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Re: MK silence on Gaza
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2024, 12:05:33 PM »
@border_reiver - well said!

Indeed locking this is the right thing to do

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Re: MK silence on Gaza
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2024, 12:31:51 PM »
Locking a thread? Why? How silly! Asking an open question is not permitted? I remember seeing ukraine flags in his posts. Also vaguely remember smth about a russian band persecuted. the number of angry (?) answers disappointed me. 40 thousand people died, mostly children. i expect my hero to take a stand against/about it. he doesnt have to. maybe what he says will not be entirely to my liking. maybe he will enlarge my understanding. again, he doesnt have to. my expectation was as  human being, not as an artist, politician, activist, commentator, analyst etc. i just wanted see that he's unhappy about what's happening, he dosnt habe to apportion blame etc. anyway


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Re: MK silence on Gaza
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2024, 01:02:28 PM »
People have spoken about MK so far without getting into anything nasty I think...

Yes. Let's see where it goes. I just feel that "this one's not going to end well"  :)
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Re: MK silence on Gaza
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2024, 01:05:57 PM »
Locking a thread? Why? How silly! Asking an open question is not permitted? I remember seeing ukraine flags in his posts. Also vaguely remember smth about a russian band persecuted. the number of angry (?) answers disappointed me. 40 thousand people died, mostly children. i expect my hero to take a stand against/about it. he doesnt have to. maybe what he says will not be entirely to my liking. maybe he will enlarge my understanding. again, he doesnt have to. my expectation was as  human being, not as an artist, politician, activist, commentator, analyst etc. i just wanted see that he's unhappy about what's happening, he dosnt habe to apportion blame etc. anyway


no need to close. nothing has happened (yet) also, i would prefer Mark not become like Roger Waters, i prefer to listen to his music
Also, do not get me wrong, i personally have strong feelings about what is happening there, but that is not relevant for this thread.
he was vocal about russia, not this time, i assume the general perception was soooooo anti russia that it was easy for him to make a point (to which i agree) but with the Gaza conflict and the palestine/israel question in general, it has become so....vitriolic, from both sides, that it would be suicide to post for him, as he would NEVER be able to pls anyone.
i assume he has acted as a private person on this topic already.
no excuse of course, just an effort to explain
as long as no one becomes aggressive against another member on here, and as long as we stick to the actual question, why close the thread?
any Knopfler, Floyd or Dylan will do....

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Re: MK silence on Gaza
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2024, 01:43:48 PM »
Locking a thread? Why? How silly! Asking an open question is not permitted? I remember seeing ukraine flags in his posts. Also vaguely remember smth about a russian band persecuted. the number of angry (?) answers disappointed me. 40 thousand people died, mostly children. i expect my hero to take a stand against/about it. he doesnt have to. maybe what he says will not be entirely to my liking. maybe he will enlarge my understanding. again, he doesnt have to. my expectation was as  human being, not as an artist, politician, activist, commentator, analyst etc. i just wanted see that he's unhappy about what's happening, he dosnt habe to apportion blame etc. anyway


no need to close. nothing has happened (yet) also, i would prefer Mark not become like Roger Waters, i prefer to listen to his music
Also, do not get me wrong, i personally have strong feelings about what is happening there, but that is not relevant for this thread.
he was vocal about russia, not this time, i assume the general perception was soooooo anti russia that it was easy for him to make a point (to which i agree) but with the Gaza conflict and the palestine/israel question in general, it has become so....vitriolic, from both sides, that it would be suicide to post for him, as he would NEVER be able to pls anyone.
i assume he has acted as a private person on this topic already.
no excuse of course, just an effort to explain
as long as no one becomes aggressive against another member on here, and as long as we stick to the actual question, why close the thread?

MK and politics have always failed in the end of a discussion. Russia being the exception.

Perhaps I was a bit unclear. If the thread goes out of control there's no need to keep it on right?
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