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Author Topic: (9) Sweeter than the rain  (Read 6388 times)

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Re: (9) Sweeter than the rain
« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2024, 05:53:26 AM »
A bounty Hunter informing the "Ice Princess" (partner/wife) of his victim of his demise.

SWEETER THAN THE RAIN (Mark Knopfler)
My hunters' heart may not be merciless
But on this day of freezing snow
It’s as cold as the heart of the Ice princess
who didn’t   want to know
I take my orders
ask few questions,
it’s no real life for a decent man
Few clear cut lines or regulations
low on prospects and future plans
If you should harken to the devil’s bidding,
per chance you'll bring me work to do
It may not be my hearts' true calling
but I will surely come for you
To you who live by rape and plunder
I'll shoot or hang
With scant remorse
My old reliable the avenging thunder
else my rope and faithful horse

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Your late companion
In haste repented
I had him take
a ride with me
through this poor country
he had so tormented
Until we came
to the highest tree
He did reveal in his confession
that you were Makin' for the train
This bitter snow
will soon be melted
And nothins' sweeter than the rain


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Re: (9) Sweeter than the rain
« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2024, 06:37:46 PM »
... still trying to work out what on earth happened in this song.
'Somebody killed something: that's clear, at any rate' (Lewis Carroll).  :lol
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Re: (9) Sweeter than the rain
« Reply #32 on: April 12, 2024, 06:54:11 PM »
... still trying to work out what on earth happened in this song.
'Somebody killed something: that's clear, at any rate' (Lewis Carroll).  :lol

I have the same :hmm
I know the way I can see by the moonlight
Clear as the day
Now come on woman, come follow me home

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Re: (9) Sweeter than the rain
« Reply #33 on: April 12, 2024, 07:29:24 PM »
Right, I'll give it a try...

Person 1 (the storyteller) is a killer who will take on almost any job, even the very dirty ones ("devil's bidding"). Still, he doesn't actually like his job and despises himself for it ("no life for a decent man", "not my heart's true calling").

Person 2 ("you who live by rape and plunder") is a guy he works for, but he really hates him. Some mafia boss who forced him to kill, maybe? The line "this poor country he had so tormented" points to an organisation rather than an individual.

Person 3 (the "late companion") is a partner in crime of person 2. The storyteller killed him (maybe because person 2 told him to), in what sounds like an execution ("highest tree"), but before that he forced him to give information about person 2, who is about to make his escape ("you were making for the train").

At the beginning, he says he's not a merciless killer, but today his heart is "as cold as the heart of the ice princess", i.e. he's angry and ready to kill person 1. Maybe person 1 let him down, didn't pay up or whatever, so he's getting his revenge on person 1.

In the last lines he's about to murder person 2. After that, "this bitter snow will soon be melting", he will no longer have to kill for a living or because someone forced him to, and he will leave that criminal world behind him (and maybe get a decent job).

The rain could also stand for some way of washing off his sins.

Does that make any sense at all?   :hmm



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Re: (9) Sweeter than the rain
« Reply #34 on: April 12, 2024, 07:37:46 PM »
Right, I'll give it a try...

Person 1 (the storyteller) is a killer who will take on almost any job, even the very dirty ones ("devil's bidding"). Still, he doesn't actually like his job and despises himself for it ("no life for a decent man", "not my heart's true calling").

Person 2 ("you who live by rape and plunder") is a guy he works for, but he really hates him. Some mafia boss who forced him to kill, maybe? The line "this poor country he had so tormented" points to an organisation rather than an individual.

Person 3 (the "late companion") is a partner in crime of person 2. The storyteller killed him (maybe because person 2 told him to), in what sounds like an execution ("highest tree"), but before that he forced him to give information about person 2, who is about to make his escape ("you were making for the train").

At the beginning, he says he's not a merciless killer, but today his heart is "as cold as the heart of the ice princess", i.e. he's angry and ready to kill person 1. Maybe person 1 let him down, didn't pay up or whatever, so he's getting his revenge on person 1.

In the last lines he's about to murder person 2. After that, "this bitter snow will soon be melting", he will no longer have to kill for a living or because someone forced him to, and he will leave that criminal world behind him (and maybe get a decent job).

The rain could also stand for some way of washing off his sins.

Does that make any sense at all?   :hmm

Very good. Rain in MK's songs often washes away dirt and worries.
I really like this dark MK.
I know the way I can see by the moonlight
Clear as the day
Now come on woman, come follow me home

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Re: (9) Sweeter than the rain
« Reply #35 on: April 12, 2024, 09:34:08 PM »
To me this is either a contracted Bounty Hunter or Sheriff who hunts down and disposes of criminals.

He's telling the widow (Late Companion) "Ice Princess who doesn't want to know about his death, by hanging from the the highest tree. She's trying to hide the fact that she knows her partner is an outlaw! He also informs her that despite the coldness of her demeanour that her husband/partner bettrays the fact that she was on the run with him (makin' for the train)
Mark and Greg again excel with the IMHO too short 🎸 guitar 🎸 solo!
The short outro symbolises the rain cleansing or washing away the tawdry scene!

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Re: (9) Sweeter than the rain
« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2024, 12:04:50 PM »
I'm getting 'Fare thee well Northumberland' vibes with this tune...
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Re: (9) Sweeter than the rain
« Reply #37 on: April 19, 2024, 05:03:30 PM »
To me this is either a contracted Bounty Hunter or Sheriff who hunts down and disposes of criminals.

I also give this interpretation. I like these lyrics and also the atmosphere of the song.
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Re: (9) Sweeter than the rain
« Reply #38 on: April 22, 2024, 11:18:38 AM »
MK's playing is tone perfect here & Guys production on the ODR sessions are 2nd to no one! :clap

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Re: (9) Sweeter than the rain
« Reply #39 on: April 23, 2024, 03:55:32 PM »
I'm getting 'Fare thee well Northumberland' vibes with this tune...

Well, the melody is almost identical.  :lol

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Re: (9) Sweeter than the rain
« Reply #40 on: April 23, 2024, 07:21:33 PM »
I'm getting 'Fare thee well Northumberland' vibes with this tune...

Well, the melody is almost identical.  :lol

Correct sir!
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Re: (9) Sweeter than the rain
« Reply #41 on: April 23, 2024, 09:15:07 PM »
I'm getting 'Fare thee well Northumberland' vibes with this tune...

Well, the melody is almost identical.  :lol

Correct sir!

Blasphemy! :) No, they're different but both very good songs though FTWN is at least a notch (?) better, maybe becoz we know it better/longer but probably becoz of the long guitar work at the end

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Re: (9) Sweeter than the rain
« Reply #42 on: April 23, 2024, 09:20:03 PM »
I'm getting 'Fare thee well Northumberland' vibes with this tune...

Well, the melody is almost identical.  :lol

Correct sir!

Blasphemy! :) No, they're different but both very good songs though FTWN is at least a notch (?) better, maybe becoz we know it better/longer but probably becoz of the long guitar work at the end


Blasphemy? Im not being disrespectful to God! In fact im not being disrespectful to our 'guitar god' either, all we are saying is that tune wise they are very similar sir!
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Re: (9) Sweeter than the rain
« Reply #43 on: April 23, 2024, 09:44:59 PM »
It really is very similar.
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Re: (9) Sweeter than the rain
« Reply #44 on: April 24, 2024, 09:47:37 PM »
My hunter's heart, come drive me down, to the central station...

Both songs even start a cappella. But the new one has no proper final section, and so seems a weaker version. Odd. Not bad, just...underwhelming.



 

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