Just The Drummer In The Band...

[hunter v2.0]

Terry was terrific. Just as Pick was so integral to the early DS sound, Terry was key to the live DS sound in the 80s. I mean, Alchemy – I get goosebumps just by thinking about his playing on Once Upon a Time.

[JF]

And even with "One World", John was already replaced for 1 song.

He was also replaced in "why worry" by Neil Jason

No, according to Wikipedia refering to John Illsley's book : 

Neil Jason – bass on "One World"[17][59]
Tony Levin – Chapman Stick on "Why Worry"[60]

I think it's the contrary

[Chris W]

Terry never wanted to have his own band because what he was, he was just the drummer in the band, not the star in the band.

Totally relevant.

The comment was first made about Pick Withers leaving Dire STRAITS. It REALLY is irrelevant. Terry, like most other drummers treated his role in DS with respect, so did I. Charlie Watts had his own band. No one ear suggested it showed a lack of respect to The Stones, or somehow compromised his role in The Stones.
It's some weirdly prejudiced view of drummers, that if they want to have their own band on their own time it somehow reflects badly on their playing in Dire Straits. Nonsense. Irrelevant.

[Chris W]

John had solo albums during the lifetime of DS. Does that make him egotistical, not respecting his role as "just the bass player' in Dire Straits?

[Jules]

John had solo albums during the lifetime of DS. Does that make him egotistical, not respecting his role as "just the bass player' in Dire Straits?

That's not the point and nodody meant that, but you are free as anyone else to express whatever..

[Chris W]

That's not the point and nodody meant that, but you are free as anyone else to express whatever..

If I misunderstood, fine....what is the point?
I first read it from 'Quizz' in connection with Pick leaving Dire Straits, where the opinion was expressed that his career would have been better accepting he was 'just the drummer in the band' a band that had a 'genius' songwriter and guitarist. It was a put down in my opinion.
As a drummer in several bands, it is irrelevant if at some point I decide to start my own band, or make some solo records, however bad.
I give my all to support the songs and the singer (who ever it is) I'm working with.
There is no difference in the regard between Pick and Terry.
I've never needed to start my own band and I'm happy to be 'just the drummer' if the songs are great and I admire the other musicians. I think most drummers are like that.

[ds1984]

And even with "One World", John was already replaced for 1 song.

He was also replaced in "why worry" by Neil Jason

No, according to Wikipedia refering to John Illsley's book : 

Neil Jason – bass on "One World"[17][59]
Tony Levin – Chapman Stick on "Why Worry"[60]

I think it's the contrary

I had the info BEFORE John Illsley wrote his book and this info was already spoken somewhere on this forum.

Everybody though that the slap was Tony but...NO! Quite surprising  isn't it?

From Session Madness: Tales From Inside The Groove article

"Truly the surprise of the session was one of the last tracks cut, “One World,” where Knopfler let the full Neil Jason — slapping, effects, and all — emerge."
[...]
"For “One World,” Jason surmises that it was the hard-edged, funky nature of the groove that led him to move from finger plucking to thumb slaps and index-finger pops, with Knopfler’s approval. He laughs, “Knowing Mark’s experimental nature and commitment to getting just the right sounds on a track emboldened me to try out some pedals."

[hunter v2.0]

I had the info BEFORE John Illsley wrote his book and this info was already spoken somewhere on this forum.

Everybody though that the slap was Tony but...NO! Quite surprising  isn't it?

From Session Madness: Tales From Inside The Groove article

"Truly the surprise of the session was one of the last tracks cut, “One World,” where Knopfler let the full Neil Jason — slapping, effects, and all — emerge."
[...]
"For “One World,” Jason surmises that it was the hard-edged, funky nature of the groove that led him to move from finger plucking to thumb slaps and index-finger pops, with Knopfler’s approval. He laughs, “Knowing Mark’s experimental nature and commitment to getting just the right sounds on a track emboldened me to try out some pedals."

Great article! I have never seen this before. I actually didn't know who Neil Jason was until very recently, and I was sure it was Tony Levin who played on One World. The biggest surprise is that Mark had Neil play on many (all?) the tracks. I was sure all bass tracks had been played by John in Montserrat, but only the very un-John-like bass on One World was recorded later. You learn something every day.

[Jules]

I had the info BEFORE John Illsley wrote his book and this info was already spoken somewhere on this forum.

Everybody though that the slap was Tony but...NO! Quite surprising  isn't it?

From Session Madness: Tales From Inside The Groove article

"Truly the surprise of the session was one of the last tracks cut, “One World,” where Knopfler let the full Neil Jason — slapping, effects, and all — emerge."
[...]
"For “One World,” Jason surmises that it was the hard-edged, funky nature of the groove that led him to move from finger plucking to thumb slaps and index-finger pops, with Knopfler’s approval. He laughs, “Knowing Mark’s experimental nature and commitment to getting just the right sounds on a track emboldened me to try out some pedals."

Great article! I have never seen this before. I actually didn't know who Neil Jason was until very recently, and I was sure it was Tony Levin who played on One World. The biggest surprise is that Mark had Neil play on many (all?) the tracks. I was sure all bass tracks had been played by John in Montserrat, but only the very un-John-like bass on One World was recorded later. You learn something every day.

I remember that because of those songs, Alan used to joke telling that he was the only DS member who played in all the tracks recorded by DS since joining the band, and it's true. 

Excep MK, of course.

[Matchstickman]

To get this straight, what songs do not feature John on BIA? And is Terry on anything besides MFN intro?

[Jules]

To get this straight, what songs do not feature John on BIA? And is Terry on anything besides MFN intro?

Why worry and One world.

[2manyguitars]

To get this straight, what songs do not feature John on BIA? And is Terry on anything besides MFN intro?

WOL according to TWs wiki quoting a sound on sound interview with ND.

So basically pick someone!

Also apparently some of TWs drum fills were used in song on MFN, not just the intro...