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[Chris W]

There was probably a technical issue with the Sultans kit because it was a movable set up that was only ever used for one song in the show.
I'm still unsure about Guy's diary entry about Fade To Black. It could have been that the kit was actually being recorded but because my brushes were very much quieter than the regular playing that it just didn't register on the tape machine. I can't think if any reason to mute the drums in the middle of a show, unless we played Fade To Black immediately after Sultans (which is a possibility, I can't remember).
Again, from MY memory, I played brushes (like the album) on Fade To Black, not crosstick and hi-hat. Only IIRC.
I can't imagine many 'technical issues' occurring with Paul Franklin. Chris White? Maybe, but as I say, with sax mics picking up the monitors and amps on stage, it would be hard to slide audio from one show to another, but not impossible.

[Jules]

There was probably a technical issue with the Sultans kit because it was a movable set up that was only ever used for one song in the show.
I'm still unsure about Guy's diary entry about Fade To Black. It could have been that the kit was actually being recorded but because my brushes were very much quieter than the regular playing that it just didn't register on the tape machine. I can't think if any reason to mute the drums in the middle of a show, unless we played Fade To Black immediately after Sultans (which is a possibility, I can't remember).
Again, from MY memory, I played brushes (like the album) on Fade To Black, not crosstick and hi-hat. Only IIRC.
I can't imagine many 'technical issues' occurring with Paul Franklin. Chris White? Maybe, but as I say, with sax mics picking up the monitors and amps on stage, it would be hard to slide audio from one show to another, but not impossible.

Yes, "Fade to black" was played just next to "Sultans".

In Fade to black I listen to very low in volume brushes and there is a sound I first though it was hihat but it's actually the brushing hiting the snare softly.

[Brunno Nunes]

Just reporting, I just realized that MFN present in On The Night was always the version on 05/31/92 Rotterdam,and Wild Theme on OTN is precisely in Feyenoord, Rotterdam HOL 30.05.92. I just compared it, I will do this little by little with the other songs!

Ok. Do you find time to just listen and enjoy it occasionally?

LE

Let's say that the curiosity to understand what is happening moves me!

[Robson]

I also like to know the exact dates of songs from concerts and On The Night is a real maze Thank you Brunno Nunes

[Brunno Nunes]

I also like to know the exact dates of songs from concerts and On The Night is a real maze Thank you Brunno Nunes

This was to be delivered with strict dates and locations, this is how official material should be released, but, we know the historical neglect with official releases, a lot of inaccuracy in information is regrettable. I'm trying to help do what they should have done, I'm happy to do that, but... that homework would have to be from production, as we know.

[Rolo]

I believe they 'fixed' quite a few things for the OTN original album.
Obviously the drums weren't fixed. Chris White told me that he was never asked to re-record anything. I doubt Paul Franklin was either.

I always guessed that the OTN has some studio overdubs.

[dmg]

It seems we'll never know for sure and most tracks will be based upon a certain version from a particular date with edits here and there.  Pity, because they made such a point to note the "honesty" of Alchemy on the sleeve.  I suppose this sort of thing isn't uncommon though.

I would presume that the newly released tracks are unedited though, apart from the repairs Guy mentioned.

[Love Expresso]

Just reporting, I just realized that MFN present in On The Night was always the version on 05/31/92 Rotterdam,and Wild Theme on OTN is precisely in Feyenoord, Rotterdam HOL 30.05.92. I just compared it, I will do this little by little with the other songs!

Ok. Do you find time to just listen and enjoy it occasionally?

LE

Let's say that the curiosity to understand what is happening moves me!

The amount of work you put into these investigations seems immense! Very good effort and fans and fanbase in the future will be thankful. So kudos to you!

LE

[Robson]

Just reporting, I just realized that MFN present in On The Night was always the version on 05/31/92 Rotterdam,and Wild Theme on OTN is precisely in Feyenoord, Rotterdam HOL 30.05.92. I just compared it, I will do this little by little with the other songs!

Ok. Do you find time to just listen and enjoy it occasionally?

LE

Let's say that the curiosity to understand what is happening moves me!

The amount of work you put into these investigations seems immense! Very good effort and fans and fanbase in the future will be thankful. So kudos to you!

LE

Exactly!

[Robson]

But what about this list? Is it real?

1. Calling Elvis - Nimes 21.05.1992 (mixed a lot)
2. Walk Of Life - Rotterdam 30.05.1992
3. Heavy Fuel - Nimes 20.05.1992
4. Romeo And Juliet - Nimes 20.05.1992
5. The Bug - Nimes 20.05.1992
6. Private Investigations - Nimes 20.05.1992
7. Sultans Of Swing - Rotterdam 30.05.1992
8. Your Latest Trick - Nimes 20.05.1992
9. Fade To Black - Nimes 21.05.1992
10. When It comes To You - Nimes 21.05.1992
11. I Think I Love You Too Much - Rotterdam 30.05.1992
12. You And Your Friend - Rotterdam 31.05.1992
13. On Every Street - Nimes 20.05.1992
14. Two Young Lovers - Rotterdam 31.05.1992
15. Tunnel Of Love - Rotterdam - 30.05.1992
16. Telegraph Road - Nimes 21.05.1992
17. Money For Nothing - Rotterdam 31.05.1992
18. Brothers In Arms - Rotterdam 31.05.1992
19. Solid Rock - Rotterdam 31.05.1992
20. Local Heroes/Whild Theme - Rotterdam 30.05.1992

[Chris W]

Yes, "Fade to black" was played just next to "Sultans".

Then yes, they probably muted the main drum kit.

[Brunno Nunes]

But what about this list? Is it real?

1. Calling Elvis - Nimes 21.05.1992 (mixed a lot)
2. Walk Of Life - Rotterdam 30.05.1992
3. Heavy Fuel - Nimes 20.05.1992
4. Romeo And Juliet - Nimes 20.05.1992
5. The Bug - Nimes 20.05.1992
6. Private Investigations - Nimes 20.05.1992
7. Sultans Of Swing - Rotterdam 30.05.1992
8. Your Latest Trick - Nimes 20.05.1992
9. Fade To Black - Nimes 21.05.1992
10. When It comes To You - Nimes 21.05.1992
11. I Think I Love You Too Much - Rotterdam 30.05.1992
12. You And Your Friend - Rotterdam 31.05.1992
13. On Every Street - Nimes 20.05.1992
14. Two Young Lovers - Rotterdam 31.05.1992
15. Tunnel Of Love - Rotterdam - 30.05.1992
16. Telegraph Road - Nimes 21.05.1992
17. Money For Nothing - Rotterdam 31.05.1992
18. Brothers In Arms - Rotterdam 31.05.1992
19. Solid Rock - Rotterdam 31.05.1992
20. Local Heroes/Whild Theme - Rotterdam 30.05.1992

Apparently this is exactly correct, so far, I clearly noticed that they were specific edits in the audio, in this case, in CE, WOL, YLT, these have excerpts from different shows. Heavy Fuel, R&J, The Bug, PI, are in full, they are exactly as they were played on 05/20/92 Nimes. Later I will analyze others.

[Robson]

But what about this list? Is it real?

1. Calling Elvis - Nimes 21.05.1992 (mixed a lot)
2. Walk Of Life - Rotterdam 30.05.1992
3. Heavy Fuel - Nimes 20.05.1992
4. Romeo And Juliet - Nimes 20.05.1992
5. The Bug - Nimes 20.05.1992
6. Private Investigations - Nimes 20.05.1992
7. Sultans Of Swing - Rotterdam 30.05.1992
8. Your Latest Trick - Nimes 20.05.1992
9. Fade To Black - Nimes 21.05.1992
10. When It comes To You - Nimes 21.05.1992
11. I Think I Love You Too Much - Rotterdam 30.05.1992
12. You And Your Friend - Rotterdam 31.05.1992
13. On Every Street - Nimes 20.05.1992
14. Two Young Lovers - Rotterdam 31.05.1992
15. Tunnel Of Love - Rotterdam - 30.05.1992
16. Telegraph Road - Nimes 21.05.1992
17. Money For Nothing - Rotterdam 31.05.1992
18. Brothers In Arms - Rotterdam 31.05.1992
19. Solid Rock - Rotterdam 31.05.1992
20. Local Heroes/Whild Theme - Rotterdam 30.05.1992

Apparently this is exactly correct, so far, I clearly noticed that they were specific edits in the audio, in this case, in CE, WOL, YLT, these have excerpts from different shows. Heavy Fuel, R&J, The Bug, PI, are in full, they are exactly as they were played on 05/20/92 Nimes. Later I will analyze others.

 

[Brunno Nunes]

Just reporting, I just realized that MFN present in On The Night was always the version on 05/31/92 Rotterdam,and Wild Theme on OTN is precisely in Feyenoord, Rotterdam HOL 30.05.92. I just compared it, I will do this little by little with the other songs!

Ok. Do you find time to just listen and enjoy it occasionally?

LE

Let's say that the curiosity to understand what is happening moves me!

The amount of work you put into these investigations seems immense! Very good effort and fans and fanbase in the future will be thankful. So kudos to you!

LE

Thank you very much for the recognition, my dear, my academic background is a degree in History, so, in this case, I combine my passion for the band and the commitment to preserving the historical value of Dire Straits' work, for the benefit of the band's memory, I do it for love, from fan to fan like many here do.

[Robson]

Do these deep analyzes also apply to MK? I'm very impressed.