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Re: Ed Bicknell Interview
« Reply #180 on: March 10, 2024, 08:08:48 PM »
"Dusty Springfield’s comment" :lol

Ed, if I die out of laughter, it will be your fault.

I only wanna be with you Quizzy :)
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Re: Ed Bicknell Interview
« Reply #181 on: March 10, 2024, 08:39:25 PM »

WOL.
I had been travelling and when I got back to NY I popped into the Power Station where Neil and Mark were recording his vocals ( no, not together! )
They had just put up WOL which I'd not heard before.
“ What’s this?” I said.
“ Ah, nothing, it's just a B side “ responded M. I don't recall Neil saying anything and I’ve no idea where this idea that he ‘hated” it came from ( maybe he does, he’s 99% deaf anyway…that’s good in his line of work ).
“ But that’s a hit song” …I squeaked which led to a 5 minute debate about whether it should be included on the album or not.
“ So it's good enough to be a B side but it's NOT good enough to go on the record?” I asked.
Sheer brilliance on my part, I mean COME ON …...M rarely if ever took a commercial view of his music so just as well I was around. Ha!  ( The band weren’t there so not involved ).
So it went on the album and the single A side version sold more Worldwide than MFN.

Sorry Ed.  I will stop posting stuff like this, as I obviously misremember or conflate stories I heard 25-40 years ago. 
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Re: Ed Bicknell Interview
« Reply #182 on: March 10, 2024, 11:17:24 PM »
Thanks again, Chris and Ed! Second best post in the history of AMIT. May we get a third best? ;)

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Re: Ed Bicknell Interview
« Reply #183 on: March 11, 2024, 09:44:46 AM »
That's why I'm so offended when I get told I live in fantasy. If anything, I steer AWAY from fantasy as much as possible.

I think Ed's first message was to clear up a lot of discussion on the forum that was wide of the mark regarding the facts.
I feel I have corrected a lot of misinformation in my time at the forum, from the perspective of someone who was there for 1.5 years.
I think you can celebrate Ed's contributions this week without seeking to gloss over some past missteps.
Fact is, fans do a lot of guess work, especially when there is a dearth of fact available.
i keep hoping you stay on and not get demotivated too much by the little amount of negativism that pops up every now and then (some may interpret this as a grave understatement, up to you)
the insight you keep delivering is like being on a treasure hunt for us fans.
any Knopfler, Floyd or Dylan will do....

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Re: Ed Bicknell Interview
« Reply #184 on: March 11, 2024, 02:28:41 PM »
The problem is when you treat public forums like you're walking in the forest with your buddies, talking nonsense you think will never reach who you talk nonsense about (or someome close to them). Suddenly, someone with actual first hand experience enters the chat and if you used big words on just guessing, you will often look (and feel?) like an idiot.

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Re: Ed Bicknell Interview
« Reply #185 on: March 11, 2024, 04:37:25 PM »
The problem is when you treat public forums like you're walking in the forest with your buddies, talking nonsense you think will never reach who you talk nonsense about (or someome close to them). Suddenly, someone with actual first hand experience enters the chat and if you used big words on just guessing, you will often look (and feel?) like an idiot.

Ed is polite, very in-depth, extremely mindful, very funny and smart in his responses. He notices and understands everything, almost shockingly so. I noticed that the most "big words" and nonsense on this forum come from people being offended, usually in response to an even harsher attack or misunderstanding. If the discussion stays within polite borders and is properly carried out, surprise, surprise, nobody gets offended. It's not a miracle that I haven't seen a single negative comment about Ed or Ed's thoughts yet.

And who said this magical someone who enters the chat never talks nonsense, never uses big words, is never wrong, never misinterprets words, and is always right? Ed in a 2012 interview said something along the lines that The Rolling Stones will stop playing live in the next 10 years. Was he wrong? Technically, maybe, but he meant a completely different thing. Another ball game is when you (not you personally) think that everything that anyone besides you thinks is nonsense and guesses by default.

What you mean by "big words" is a big question as well. I said "Having a pizza delivery guy in your lineup" and for some reason, I was accused of offending Alan. I wasn't talking about Alan at all, I meant that a lot of acts/companies/people in general use the fact of having sometimes not crucial part of something bigger on hand as an exaggerated advantage. Do I say it about Alan precisely? No, I never meant that. People get to their conclusions themselves. A lot of lessons to learn here.

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Re: Ed Bicknell Interview
« Reply #186 on: March 11, 2024, 05:40:00 PM »
That was an entertaining read. Ed clearly has balls (or at least he likes to mention them).

My all-time favorite posts on the matter, however, remain the ones called "Let's See You" and "Terminal of Tribute to". I'm hoping for more of those!

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Re: Ed Bicknell Interview
« Reply #187 on: March 11, 2024, 06:52:22 PM »
"Skid Marks"  ;D

This is truly amazing. Thanks again, Ed, for taking the time. (And thanks so much to Chris and Julio.) And as for audio book: I'd buy it even if the voice belonged to someone with a heavy Indian accent, released on Betamax and had to be ordered from North Korea. Though a printed version will do just fine  :-*

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Re: Ed Bicknell Interview
« Reply #188 on: March 12, 2024, 12:03:18 AM »
The problem is when you treat public forums like you're walking in the forest with your buddies, talking nonsense you think will never reach who you talk nonsense about (or someome close to them). Suddenly, someone with actual first hand experience enters the chat and if you used big words on just guessing, you will often look (and feel?) like an idiot.

Ed is polite, very in-depth, extremely mindful, very funny and smart in his responses. He notices and understands everything, almost shockingly so. I noticed that the most "big words" and nonsense on this forum come from people being offended, usually in response to an even harsher attack or misunderstanding. If the discussion stays within polite borders and is properly carried out, surprise, surprise, nobody gets offended. It's not a miracle that I haven't seen a single negative comment about Ed or Ed's thoughts yet.

And who said this magical someone who enters the chat never talks nonsense, never uses big words, is never wrong, never misinterprets words, and is always right? Ed in a 2012 interview said something along the lines that The Rolling Stones will stop playing live in the next 10 years. Was he wrong? Technically, maybe, but he meant a completely different thing. Another ball game is when you (not you personally) think that everything that anyone besides you thinks is nonsense and guesses by default.

What you mean by "big words" is a big question as well. I said "Having a pizza delivery guy in your lineup" and for some reason, I was accused of offending Alan. I wasn't talking about Alan at all, I meant that a lot of acts/companies/people in general use the fact of having sometimes not crucial part of something bigger on hand as an exaggerated advantage. Do I say it about Alan precisely? No, I never meant that. People get to their conclusions themselves. A lot of lessons to learn here.

It's more in the sense of downplaying people's contribution in DS, making "bold" (as in ridiculous) statements about people's carreer choices, accusing them of things without solid evidence  and so on. We don't know who will read and interact with this chat/forum. Like, there were people who obviously never thought Chris W would enter this forum when they commented on his contribution the OES tour. Critiquing someone who is not here will always be something else than doing the same to someone who is around to defend themselves and to actually read what someone writes. And then it's really easy to look like a fool when the big words come back at the author.

I think the biggest lesson is to be precise, so people won't have to guess what you actually mean.

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Re: Ed Bicknell Interview
« Reply #189 on: March 12, 2024, 01:21:47 AM »
The problem is when you treat public forums like you're walking in the forest with your buddies, talking nonsense you think will never reach who you talk nonsense about (or someome close to them). Suddenly, someone with actual first hand experience enters the chat and if you used big words on just guessing, you will often look (and feel?) like an idiot.

Ed is polite, very in-depth, extremely mindful, very funny and smart in his responses. He notices and understands everything, almost shockingly so. I noticed that the most "big words" and nonsense on this forum come from people being offended, usually in response to an even harsher attack or misunderstanding. If the discussion stays within polite borders and is properly carried out, surprise, surprise, nobody gets offended. It's not a miracle that I haven't seen a single negative comment about Ed or Ed's thoughts yet.

And who said this magical someone who enters the chat never talks nonsense, never uses big words, is never wrong, never misinterprets words, and is always right? Ed in a 2012 interview said something along the lines that The Rolling Stones will stop playing live in the next 10 years. Was he wrong? Technically, maybe, but he meant a completely different thing. Another ball game is when you (not you personally) think that everything that anyone besides you thinks is nonsense and guesses by default.

What you mean by "big words" is a big question as well. I said "Having a pizza delivery guy in your lineup" and for some reason, I was accused of offending Alan. I wasn't talking about Alan at all, I meant that a lot of acts/companies/people in general use the fact of having sometimes not crucial part of something bigger on hand as an exaggerated advantage. Do I say it about Alan precisely? No, I never meant that. People get to their conclusions themselves. A lot of lessons to learn here.

It's more in the sense of downplaying people's contribution in DS, making "bold" (as in ridiculous) statements about people's carreer choices, accusing them of things without solid evidence  and so on. We don't know who will read and interact with this chat/forum. Like, there were people who obviously never thought Chris W would enter this forum when they commented on his contribution the OES tour. Critiquing someone who is not here will always be something else than doing the same to someone who is around to defend themselves and to actually read what someone writes. And then it's really easy to look like a fool when the big words come back at the author.

I think the biggest lesson is to be precise, so people won't have to guess what you actually mean.

That's very well articulated, Knut. I can say for myself I feel really bad discussing someone behind their backs, that's awful. I literally feel physical pain, and honestly, I should probably stay away from social media and discussions as I'm extremely, desperately inclined to fight for truth all the time even in 1-1 discussions, and as you can witness here, can do it forever, often using exaggeration, proof by contradiction and other logic tricks to get somewhere. And when I clash with people who take it too seriously, it turns into a nuclear explosion and a negative loop.

I just love Mark's music, the history around it and truth, and like everybody else, that's why I'm here. It's a good place, and I'm happy that even such important people as you-all-know-who-by-now chimed in and spoke, that's awesome. Getting to the truth without people in question is impossible anyway, and if anybody else drops by to clear misconceptions or say that I'm an a-hole, that would make us all happy.

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Re: Ed Bicknell Interview
« Reply #190 on: March 12, 2024, 02:29:36 AM »
"I just love Mark's music"

Like all of us. But not everyone has the ease and lightness in writing as you do. I think of myself :(
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Re: Ed Bicknell Interview
« Reply #191 on: April 24, 2024, 10:01:16 PM »
Heads up, there’s a really good feature on Scott Walker’s Climate of Hunter album in the current issue of Mojo with some great contributions from Ed.
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Re: Ed Bicknell Interview
« Reply #193 on: June 01, 2024, 05:25:30 PM »
Yes it was that podcast that started this thread off.

Great ep and there are some other good eps as well. The Linda Rondsadt one was funny, seems she does not give one single fuck, lols.
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Re: Ed Bicknell Interview
« Reply #194 on: June 01, 2024, 10:36:52 PM »
Chris Whitten sends me the following message:

Ed wanted me to forward these podcast links to you. You can post them on the forum I think:

iHeart: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-the-bob-lefsetz-podcast-30806836/episode/ed-bicknell-181077899/?cmp=web_share&embed=true

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ed-bicknell/id1316200737?i=1000657274743

Spotify: https://spotify.link/qwZ2vE7z1Jb

Amazon: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/9ff4fb19-54d4-41ae-ae7a-8a6f8d3dafa8/episodes/8cd3cdf9-6826-4e69-ac53-a807ce7ef17e/the-bob-lefsetz-podcast-ed-bicknell

Thank you! I'm only 1/3 in, but I'm ASTOUNDED by Ed's memory. The names, the places, figures ... Unbelievable. Lots of interesting nuggets.

 

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