Wembley 85 official release on DS YouTube channel

[Jules]

According to wiki the first NICAM broadcast was The Proms in July 1986:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NICAM

Entirely possible the show was made in stereo for futureproofing but unlikely it was broadcast in stereo IMO.

Broadcasted in mono or stereo?

According to the video credits they used the Rolling stones mobile so I guess they have the sound in good stereo

[onceupon84]

According to wiki the first NICAM broadcast was The Proms in July 1986:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NICAM

Entirely possible the show was made in stereo for futureproofing but unlikely it was broadcast in stereo IMO.

Broadcasted in mono or stereo?

According to the video credits they used the Rolling stones mobile so I guess they have the sound in good stereo

The concert was a multitrack record by Rolling Stones mobile (same as Alchemy). Then different mixes were designed for different uses. They can made a stereo mix for FM stations, and a mono mix for TV broadcast (or an alternative stereo mix for TV broadcast).

The question is about that this official YouTube release is true mono or very discrete stereo mix. FM stereo mixes are very wide.

Maybe the multitracks are still alive today, those are the key to make a new stereo, 5.1 or ATMOS mix. And the original video tapes (not this digitalized TV broadcast). An example is "Delicate Sound Of Thunder" by Pink Floyd. They used all the original material to make a new video restoration and re-edition and audio remix. We can hope for a Wembley '85 BD in Full HD or 4K if this material is available.

[Jules]

Nah, thats too Wild dream when it comes to DS stuff.

If it was to re-release BIA for the N time, they would do it but, the Wembley 85 concert with restored video and Atmos sound? Nahhhhh

[the visitor]

Sounds like a stereo mix to me, maybe the pre FM mix is used as the audio track for this upgraded edition

It says licensed from ITV archive so maybe the did indeed get as close to the source as is possible

Intruiging they used Rolling Stones mobile.  My guess is they contemplated a live album from the tour but shelved in favour of a TV broadcast . I think one of the newsletters from DSIS says as much, that the material was too similar to Alchemy.  So masters probably in a vault somewhere who knows

Chance of an official release to purchase?   Nil, I'd say.  MK not interested in anything but regular paycheck from DS catalogue. To do  release like this would require some investment.

[onceupon84]

Sounds like a stereo mix to me, maybe the pre FM mix is used as the audio track for this upgraded edition

It says licensed from ITV archive so maybe the did indeed get as close to the source as is possible

Intruiging they used Rolling Stones mobile.  My guess is they contemplated a live album from the tour but shelved in favour of a TV broadcast . I think one of the newsletters from DSIS says as much, that the material was too similar to Alchemy.  So masters probably in a vault somewhere who knows

Chance of an official release to purchase?   Nil, I'd say.  MK not interested in anything but regular paycheck from DS catalogue. To do  release like this would require some investment.

Not (Pre-) FM mix on YouTube version. I'm sure.

[Marnix]

A full official live release of Wembley 85 would be great

[ds1984]

Sultans Of Swing



If the multitrack still exist, I would erase Alan part on the first half. 

[herlock]

Sultans Of Swing



If the multitrack still exist, I would erase Alan part on the first half.

Just listen to Basel 92 then 😂

[Eddie Fox]

Sultans Of Swing



If the multitrack still exist, I would erase Alan part on the first half.

Thank goodness I’m not the only one here. I wouldn’t go that far but it’s way too loud, it should sit a LOT lower in the mix.

[herlock]

It's true that the keyboards are less invasive in Alchemy.
As for sax, i can't decide whether it's best with or without. Depends on my mood 🙂 both Alchemy and Wembley are great versions. I also love '92 versions, the slower break is awesome and the Pensa sound is not that bad for Sultans... And the 4 piece versions are great too. I love them all, but nothing beats the groove of the studio version 🙂

[herlock]

Could somebody check the stereo situation for Sultans, like for SFA? Still more discrete than the PRE-FM?

[dmg]

I can't say I've ever noticed the keyboards in the BIA tour versions of Sultans as any dominant force at all.  In the On Location tour they played a significant role, especially in the final part of the song where they answer Mark's guitar.  To me this now sounds very dated and much like experimentation.  This was subsequently replaced by the saxophone and I'm sure that musically the band thought it sounded better.

[onceupon84]

Could somebody check the stereo situation for Sultans, like for SFA? Still more discrete than the PRE-FM?

Same as So Far Away

[herlock]

Could somebody check the stereo situation for Sultans, like for SFA? Still more discrete than the PRE-FM?

Same as So Far Away

Noted with thanks!

[the visitor]

Call me picky but video still looks a bit grainy to me.