Wembley 85 official release on DS YouTube channel

[herlock]

As I felt it would be possible, after Dortmund 80, the DS official YouTube channel is releasing Wembley 85 legendary concert, starting this Friday with So Far Away, great quality in the preview:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=4HdLtZAxM9Y&feature=share7

Since they don't start with Ride Accross the River, which was the opener of the tour, it is expected that they won't be releasing the ful concert, but only the song that were aired at the time.

Nonetheless this is great news, and they may release Sydney 86 after that, which will complete Wembley nicely!

I'm so thrilled to see these great concerts finally officially released, even if not on physical format! Keep it up!   

[Robson]

I remember. I recorded this concert from TV to VHS tape

[onceupon84]

Mono sound? Really?
Image quality seems to be a digitally upscaled copy / not restored from original tapes.
This would be a sadly lost opportunity...

[herlock]

Is it really mono?? I hope it is only for the preview then... They have it in stereo, it was broadcasted in FM! Well not for TOL and SR unfortunately...

[onceupon84]

Is it really mono?? I hope it is only for the preview then... They have it in stereo, it was broadcasted in FM! Well not for TOL and SR unfortunately...

Correct me If I'm wrong. I think it will be in mono, because it is taken from TV broadcast mix.
Stereo versions on YouTube and VHS sourced DVDs are made by fans, and audio is taken from FM.
TOL was not aired on radio, check all video version and all are mono sound.
This is why I think it is taken from TV mix, and not from master tapes (possibility to remix audio from multitracks and a cleaner video transfer).

[herlock]

Have you checked whether the so far away preview is in mono or stereo? I haven't...

[onceupon84]

Have you checked whether the so far away preview is in mono or stereo? I haven't...

For me, it's mono. I don't think it's a discrete stereo sound, I heard same signal from both channels.
FM version it's clearly wider.

[the visitor]

As I felt it would be possible, after Dortmund 80, the DS official YouTube channel is releasing Wembley 85 legendary concert, starting this Friday with So Far Away, great quality in the preview:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=4HdLtZAxM9Y&feature=share7

Since they don't start with Ride Accross the River, which was the opener of the tour, it is expected that they won't be releasing the ful concert, but only the song that were aired at the time.

Nonetheless this is great news, and they may release Sydney 86 after that, which will complete Wembley nicely!

I'm so thrilled to see these great concerts finally officially released, even if not on physical format! Keep it up!   

Whilst this indeed on the youtube channel I don't think this is an "official" record company release as Guy has previously alluded to.  I think they basically use existing material we have access to and improve it.  Seems to be somehow related to the direstraits.com website. 

[onceupon84]

Is it really mono?? I hope it is only for the preview then... They have it in stereo, it was broadcasted in FM! Well not for TOL and SR unfortunately...

Today I have some dudes about If the audio is Stereo or Mono... If you check 0:08 on preview video, you can appreciate (with headphones) the drums starting at left channel and finishing the drum fill on right channel.

Nobody can check this? maybe it is a very discrete stereo mix for TV broadcast? FM radio source is different stereo mix.

[dustyvalentino]

Is it really mono?? I hope it is only for the preview then... They have it in stereo, it was broadcasted in FM! Well not for TOL and SR unfortunately...

Today I have some dudes about If the audio is Stereo or Mono... If you check 0:08 on preview video, you can appreciate (with headphones) the drums starting at left channel and finishing the drum fill on right channel.

Nobody can check this? maybe it is a very discrete stereo mix for TV broadcast? FM radio source is different stereo mix.

One thing I can say for sure is that UK TV did not broadcast in stereo sound in 1985.

[herlock]

I have a doubt. The show was broadcasted in 1986, not 1985, and by 1986 this was the beginning of NICAM on BBC. Could this be the first concert broadcasted in NICAM?

[dustyvalentino]

According to wiki the first NICAM broadcast was The Proms in July 1986:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NICAM

Entirely possible the show was made in stereo for futureproofing but unlikely it was broadcast in stereo IMO.

[onceupon84]

According to wiki the first NICAM broadcast was The Proms in July 1986:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NICAM

Entirely possible the show was made in stereo for futureproofing but unlikely it was broadcast in stereo IMO.

Broadcasted in mono or stereo?

[onceupon84]

It's easy to compare listening to this



Play first the official SFA video and then listen to the first minutes of this VHS sourced video (forget digital 'restoration' and FPS upscale, this is never true when source it's limited, but here audio is in true mono, it is one of the lots of VHS copies recorded on supposed mono broadcast).

Then compare with (Pre-)FM sourced bootlegs. For example, this copy with audio sourced from FM bootleg:



I can't distinguish If official SFA video is mono or very discrete stereo, but I can distinguish perfectly mono sourced VHS copies and (Pre-) FM bootlegs used to replace mono audio from this old homemade VHS captures.

[herlock]

Now the complete SFA is online, can these tests be redone with the full thing, to come to a definite conclusion?