Three official versions of Twisting by the Pool.

[Brunno Nunes]

I just discovered some much more subtle details in Twisting by the Pool, I don't even know where to start...

(I'm going to post it here because I think there must be some retail fanatic out there like me, but I'll go ahead and apologize, because it's a bit long and needs analysis.)

With that, it is clear to me that there are 3 official versions of this song with minor differences.

Well the version that was released today on streaming platforms is the same version that was released on the EP in 1983, however I noticed there are different details in the releases of this song.

1- The TBTP clip on Vevo has the same audio as the version released on the '83 EP, but this same clip released on the Dire Straits The Videos compilation, released in '93 and The Very Best Of Dire Straits, released in '98 , seems to have the audio from the remix version (1988) with some differences.

2- In the version of the TBTP clip present in the vhs released in 1993 and in 1998 when "Gonna be so cool" is sung for the first time, at 0:20, only in these versions is it sung in a unique way, all the others versions are sung the same way, in the Gonna be so cool", at minute 0:20 only occurs in the video versions released in '93 and '98.

3- The Remix version released in 1988, Mark does NOT sing the first chorus in the same way as the 83 EP version, he omits some parts sung "twisting by the pool" (check at 0:30 and 0:36).

4- What we already knew, the version released in 1988 remix, has reverb in Mark's voice and also more volume in some parts and less volume in other parts compared to the version released in 1983 in the ep.

Anyway, 1- there is the EP version of 83. 2- in 1988 it is released remixed, Mark omits some singing parts "twisting by the pool" (see at 0:30 and 0:36). 3- in 1993 the video clip comes out on vhs dire straits the videos use the remixed audio but here when "Gonna be so cool" is sung for the first time at 0:20 only in these versions is it sung in a unique way, it launches similarly 1998 vhs and dvd. 4- The CD version The Very Best of Dire Straits (1998) is the same as the 1983 EP.

Just as a curiosity, and just to remind you, here is a version of Twisting by the Pool Remix, released in 1988 in the aforementioned collection.



Here is here is the version of the EP, released in 1983.



Logo in the first lines is possible to notice differences in voice.

Anyway, I know this is crazy, whoever has the videos of Dire Straits (1993), or the dvd The Very best of Dire Straits (1998) will be able to follow my analysis, but, for that, they will have to be crazy like me ! 

[Klaus74]

Hello Brunno Nunes. Wow, good research work, many thanks for that.

[onceupon84]

1- there is the EP version of 83.

2- in 1988 it is released remixed, Mark omits some singing parts "twisting by the pool" (see at 0:30 and 0:36).

3- in 1993 the video clip comes out on vhs dire straits the videos use the remixed audio but here when "Gonna be so cool" is sung for the first time at 0:20 only in these versions is it sung in a unique way, it launches similarly 1998 vhs and dvd.

Thanks. Perfect analysis

[Brunno Nunes]

1- there is the EP version of 83.

2- in 1988 it is released remixed, Mark omits some singing parts "twisting by the pool" (see at 0:30 and 0:36).

3- in 1993 the video clip comes out on vhs dire straits the videos use the remixed audio but here when "Gonna be so cool" is sung for the first time at 0:20 only in these versions is it sung in a unique way, it launches similarly 1998 vhs and dvd.

Thanks. Perfect analysis

Hello Brunno Nunes. Wow, good research work, many thanks for that.

Thanks!!

[onceupon84]

Thanks!!

What about 1979 studio version? There is a extract of a video clip on Arena documentary, you can see Twisting By The Pool with David on the band. Maybe can be the 4th version?

[Brunno Nunes]

Thanks!!

What about 1979 studio version? There is a extract of a video clip on Arena documentary, you can see Twisting By The Pool with David on the band. Maybe can be the 4th version?

Well remembered, that version is a kind of demo and was recorded in 1980, it has never been released until today. With it we can say that there are 4 studio versions.

[onceupon84]

Well remembered, that version is a kind of demo and was recorded in 1980, it has never been released until today. With it we can say that there are 4 studio versions.

From Mimmo's info:

" Mark produced demos of Solid Rock and Twisting By The Pool at Basing Street for a possible single that never appeared. He also produced an unreleased single for Lee Fardon ".

It meant, therefore, that the project for the release of a single with Solid Rock on side A, a year before it was re-recorded without David Knopfler for Making Movies, had started and so I thought that surely a test record had been produced, the so-called acetates, metal discs covered with a particular wax and which were made by specialized laboratories (Trident Studios, Town House Studios, Master Room Studios, Sound Clinic, just to mention the most famous) in a variable number from only 1 to 5 copies and which were then delivered into the hands of the artist himself (in those years there were no computers and CDRs).
The Dire Straits in this case, as they had done previously, relied on the TRIDENT STUDIOS of London.

The mystery of side B remains, as the book mentions Twisting by The Pool, while What's The Matter Baby was ultimately chosen. The hypotheses are 2 in my opinion: either it is an error by Michael Oldfield (in fact there are small errors in the book) or Mark was undecided about the song to be released on side B and had 2 different acetates produced, one having side B Twisting By The Pool and this one having as side B What's The Matter Baby.

If so, then there would also be another acetate with Twisting by The Pool, whose 1979 studio version actually exists and we can hear it (although not in full) in the BBC television documentary "Arena". (Who knows, sooner or later I might find this other acetate too!)

[Brunno Nunes]

If so, then there would also be another acetate with Twisting by The Pool, whose 1979 studio version actually exists and we can hear it (although not in full) in the BBC television documentary "Arena". (Who knows, sooner or later I might find this other acetate too!)[/i]

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But, this material you are referring to was not recorded in 1979, but in 1980, from September to December of 79 (the period in which Twisting by The Pool and Solid Rock were written) the band did not stop touring according to the tour. Twisting by The Pool was first performed live at the first show of the second American tour, in Boston- 08.09.79 and continued on set until the end of the tour, it is possible that Solid Rock was played at some show of the second American tour. , especially in October, the truth is that in November SR is on bootlegs like Amsterdam, Cologne, Oslo 79.

In the BBC ARENA documentary, we can hear excerpts from the Solid Rock demo and even a production of a clip with the Twisting by The Pool demo, however, incomplete.

I believe the Solid Rock demo, Twisting by The Pool and Whats The Matter Baby were recorded in Basing Street between February and March 1980, perhaps they recorded the song Making Movies at the same time. Anyway... If you go looking in the safes for unpublished material, you will undoubtedly find it.

[onceupon84]

But, this material you are referring to was not recorded in 1979, but in 1980, from September to December of 79 (the period in which Twisting by The Pool and Solid Rock were written) the band did not stop touring according to the tour. Twisting by The Pool was first performed live at the first show of the second American tour, in Boston- 08.09.79 and continued on set until the end of the tour, it is possible that Solid Rock was played at some show of the second American tour. , especially in October, the truth is that in November SR is on bootlegs like Amsterdam, Cologne, Oslo 79.

In the BBC ARENA documentary, we can hear excerpts from the Solid Rock demo and even a production of a clip with the Twisting by The Pool demo, however, incomplete.

I believe the Solid Rock demo, Twisting by The Pool and Whats The Matter Baby were recorded in Basing Street between February and March 1980, perhaps they recorded the song Making Movies at the same time. Anyway... If you go looking in the safes for unpublished material, you will undoubtedly find it.

All this info is from Mimmo, not mine.

By the way, Twsiting by the Pool HD video is now available on YouTube! (Vevo version, not remixed audio)

[Brunno Nunes]

Just a small update that helps to understand some points at the end of this topic, regarding the possible date when the demos of Twisting by the Pool, Solid Rock and Whats The Matter Baby were recorded. Last year a bootleg that had never circulated before, Copenhagen 1979, came out, when I had the pleasure of listening to it in its entirety, I had a pleasant surprise at the end of the recording, we can hear the Solid Rock demo coming out of the band's PA. Although the band was already playing Solid Rock live on this final stage of the Communiqué tour, this reveals that the band was also already promoting new material, playing the Solid Rock demo through the PA when the show was ending. So, this shows that when they finished the second American tour in October 79, the band took a break and made these recordings, at least the Solid Rock one, we can say that it was recorded after the second American tour, in October 79. As for the Whats the Matter Baby demo, I believe it was made on this same occasion and probably Twisting by the Pool.

[Brunno Nunes]

I saw on On Every Bootlegs that there is the following information about the release of the MFN compilation in 2022

“Twisting by the Pool: it is the 1983 EP version and not the 1988 remix version.”

But, at least on the Deezer streaming platform, to which I am a subscriber, the version of Twisting by the Pool is exactly a Remix that was released in 1988. As we know, the 1983 EP version does not contain the Reverb on Mark's voice, this is a striking feature that easily differentiates it.

http://www.oneverybootleg.nl/officially_owned_mfn_2LP.htm

If the physical version of this compilation released in 2022 contains the Twisting by the Pool version of the EP, then there is more than one version of this release in 2022, one with the Remix version and another with the EP version. The Deezer version is the Remix version

If you have the physical version released in 2022, please check if it is the remix version as stated in the information or if it is the EP version.

[Brunno Nunes]

Just out of curiosity, here is the version of the 1983 clip on Dire Straits' official channel, which contains the audio from the EP.

https://youtu.be/DsJ5aYK-S6Y?si=69PMbxL95Nk7oZ31

Here is the version that was released on the Dire Straits The Videos VHS in 1993, which has the audio from the Remix version.

https://youtu.be/CGzrEozOVfE?si=xckWE6SkDSNDhpKJ

In fact, it was the first version I heard, both the audio and the video. It was only years later that I heard the EP version, in my case through the 1998 compilation. I remember listening to it for the first time and finding something different, drier.

Did anyone else hear the Twisting by The Pool-Remix version from 1988 first, or was it the other way around, the EP version released in 1983?

[Robson]

If I remember correctly, I first heard Twisting By The Poll from the MFN compilation, then from the video cassette and finally from Ep. ExtendedancEPlay.

[Love Expresso]

I heard it first time on the radio around 1985, bought the EP in May 1988 and was disappointed by the remix version when it came out in October 1988.
The whole Money For Nothing album is an example of how not to do it properly. Ask Queen how to do Best-Of albums...

LE

[Brunno Nunes]

I heard it first time on the radio around 1985, bought the EP in May 1988 and was disappointed by the remix version when it came out in October 1988.
The whole Money For Nothing album is an example of how not to do it properly. Ask Queen how to do Best-Of albums...

LE

For me it was the opposite, I prefer the Remix version, it gave more life to the song, and for me the 1988 MFN compilation is an authentic marvel, no wonder that for me it is the best DS compilation, with exclusive things like the live version of PB in 1983, the demo of WDYTG, two TBTP and TR remixes. It should probably be the favorite of most fans.