Money for nothing best of in 2 LP format

[dustyvalentino]

Thanks. Every time they remaster these things they make them sound worse.

[mschaap]

It makes me sad that it turns out to be possible to destroy wonderfully recorded music by taking out almost all of the dynamics in the (re)mastering process. Just look at that wave form analysis of the 2022 digital release. What the heck were they thinking?
It is a real shame Mark's music gets mistreated by applying horrific amounts of compression.
Just cant see the point of putting out a hi-res file (as if sound quality is important) while at the same time trying very hard to sabotage the sound quality with brick wall dynamics.
Why? I just can't understand, very frustrating en disappointing.
On the other hand, I should have known better. Most MK solo albums could benefit from a little more dynamics imho, however Miles Showel of course used more compression on the remasters instead of less.

[the visitor]

I suppose the proof is really in the listening and how much you enjoy it rather than a Web analysis,  but interesting all the same

[Klaus74]

Interesting to see the difference between the old 1988 CD-Album and the 1996 Re-mastered Edition. OMG. For that test he also should use the japanese CD-Album and the Japanese Vinyl-Album.  Maybe these two editions offer also good results in such a test.
In Germany we say: "Verschlimmbesserung". OK, to make something better, here the re-mastered edition, but that process does not offer a better result. The thaught was noble, but the process and the results are even worse.

[onceupon84]

So, we have:

1 - Sultans Of Swing (alternate post-album single version)
2 - New Portobello Belle live from 1983/07/22
3 - Twisting By The Pool EP original version (not 1988 remix)
4 - Telegraph Road (¿acetate version?; 1 - no intro, 2 - first piano notes one octave upped from studio version/different mix, 3- final part with different mix and without fade out)
5 - Brothers In Arms (NEW edit version, 10 seconds longer)


On vinyl Sultans Of Swing is album version.

Just listening now to TR 2022. More differences, at 2'44" drums are much more present and better equalized than original version at 4'13"; different mix at some points.

[goon525]

I’m pretty fussy about sound, and I don’t think (other than TR peculiarities) that the new issue sounds as bad as the dynamics analysis suggests. In fact, it’s very listenable, and on some tracks the bit of bass boost is quite welcome. If the analysis was correct, we’d be hearing distortion as the loud bits hit the buffers, and I really don’t think that’s happening. I haven’t spent time comparing umpteen versions - life’s too short - but I don’t think most listeners would be disappointed with the new release, even those, like me, with audiophile pretensions.

[the visitor]

I agree goon. Although I posted the article to be honest whilst there is some probable science in this, the basic art of quality here is incredibly high standard.  Also, hifis have moved on a long way since 1988 and what was good then isn't necessarily good now and I'd rather have a louder record than one which looks slightly more dynamic viewed as a waveform.

[qjamesfloyd]

At the end of the day, all that matters is your ears, if it sounds better to YOUR ears, great, we all hear things slightly differently anyway, it's all subjective. When I listened to the remixed version of the Obscured by Clouds in the Pink Floyd Early Years box set, I was blown away, it was like hearing a brand new album, but to someone else it might have been just ok.

[dustyvalentino]

I agree goon. Although I posted the article to be honest whilst there is some probable science in this, the basic art of quality here is incredibly high standard.  Also, hifis have moved on a long way since 1988 and what was good then isn't necessarily good now and I'd rather have a louder record than one which looks slightly more dynamic viewed as a waveform.

Can I ask why?

[the visitor]

Probably because I used to dj and low volume vinyl is a killer for feedback on a loud system.

[dustyvalentino]

Ok.

I guess most people wouldn’t include Telegraph Road in their DJ set.

Meanwhile, this new version squishes the dynamics that made Love Over Gold a demo disc in Hi-Fi shops for years.

[cannibals]

Guy on DS releases:
There is a strategy and there will be more releases.

[Klaus74]

Hmm, ok, that is not new, because other artists and record-companies release also so called expanded editions (with bonus-tracks, mostly unreleased ones), anniversary editions and so on, and so on.
OK, let´s just wait for more DS or MK stuff, with real unreleased tracks.

This year, in the middle of July, MFSL will release the Mark Knopfler Local Hero Soundtrack-record as an audiophile vinyl-edition.

[Banjo99uk]

Guy on DS releases:
There is a strategy and there will be more releases.

Yep, to rinse us fans for the same old stuff. It’s genius or money for nothing.

[Dutchessy]

What could they release more? On the night vinyl?