Money for nothing best of in 2 LP format

[JF]

can you confirm if Twisting By The Pool is remix on vinyl? And Brothers In Arms edit? Is longer than 1988 edit?

I confirm BIA is longer than 1988 edit
the guitar lick during intro which was cut in 1988 is present again

it seems they took the single edit, and not the special edit that was made for the comp in 1988


regarding all little differences on this whole edition, it seems they don't have no longer the complete master of the 1988 comp, so they had to search again for each master of each song, and they did some mistakes by not taking exactly the same masters, especially for PB, Twisting, TR, BIA, and even Sultans on streaming platforms...

[Klaus74]

It is getting more and more problematic, to detect all known versions, also for MK or his people, who are involved in record-producing or record-manufacturing.
Other example the song Money for Nothing: but there are some known different versions in duration only. Maybe MK has also totally different arranged versions on his reels in his vault.
MFN Extended Version - 8:24min Included on the CD-Album Version of BIA and on the Vinyl-12-Inch Maxi-Single Version
MFN LP-Version - 7:04min Included on the LP-Version of BIA and on the US-Promo 3-Track Vinyl version
MFN (Long Edit )Single-Version - 4:38min Included on the original 7-Inch single version and on the US-Promo-3-Track vinyl version
MFN (Edit) Single-Version - 4:05min, Included on the original 1988 LP and CD-Albums, on the US-Promo 3-Track vinyl version, on the 2-Track CD-Single from 1988 and on the 7-Inch 1988 single from Holland.
So that is a little example by my side, how many durations are available of songs. Maybe there is something to discover new, if MK or the other record-producing-people discover other variants in duration or in composition. I hope so.

[Robson]

So, we have:

1 - Sultans Of Swing (alternate post-album single version)
2 - New Portobello Belle live from 1983/07/22
3 - Twisting By The Pool EP original version (not 1988 remix)
4 - Telegraph Road (acetate version; 1 - no intro 2 - first piano notes one octave up from studio version 3- final part with different mix and without   fade out)
5 - Brothers In Arms (NEW edit version, 10 seconds longer)


On vinyl Sultans Of Swing is album version.

 

I am delighted with the alternative version of Sultans Of Swing. Sounds more raw.

[Robson]

I am listening to the vinyl right now
I confirm : Sultans is the album version on the vinyl !
so the single version is only avalaible on streaming platforms !

what are they doing ??!!!
I agree : it is very very very amateurish....

can you confirm if Twisting By The Pool is remix on vinyl? And Brothers In Arms edit? Is longer than 1988 edit?

Yes. Brothers In Arms 1988 time: 4.48
2022 time: 4.58

[Robson]

"regarding all little differences on this whole edition, it seems they don't have no longer the complete master of the 1988 comp, so they had to search again for each master of each song, and they did some mistakes by not taking exactly the same masters, especially for PB, Twisting, TR, BIA, and even Sultans on streaming platforms"

Exactly! It is very possible.

[Jules]

This unfaded TR it is NOT the one from the acetate mentioned by Mimmo.

Actually this is weirda this TR, if you listen carefully more or less from 11.30 changes... I thought this Was a mistake, that someone forgot to check the end, but considering that the song kinds of change, now I think that is done on purpose, and that makes it even more weirdest.

[onceupon84]

can you confirm if Twisting By The Pool is remix on vinyl? And Brothers In Arms edit? Is longer than 1988 edit?

I confirm BIA is longer than 1988 edit
the guitar lick during intro which was cut in 1988 is present again

it seems they took the single edit, and not the special edit that was made for the comp in 1988


regarding all little differences on this whole edition, it seems they don't have no longer the complete master of the 1988 comp, so they had to search again for each master of each song, and they did some mistakes by not taking exactly the same masters, especially for PB, Twisting, TR, BIA, and even Sultans on streaming platforms...

Brothers In Arms single edit is 6:00 on 7" (see Discogs). So, 1988 and 2022 are both special edits?

[Jules]

Guy is mixing the Atmos version so, maybe we end having another different version of the compilation?

This sounds promising.

[Robson]

Sultans Of Swing 2022:

GF:

It is the Single version recorded at Pathway studios on 8 track on April 16th 1978. Engineered by Chas Herrington who went on to become the band’s LD.

[Justme]

Well, to me They have no clue. The company wants (has to) cash in. That is all that matters.
But there is no proper archive. The master tapes are spread all over the world.

[border_reiver]

You all seem surprised? Gave up a long time ago on this legacy abuse. Sigh....

[Klaus74]

OK, now the record is available. Maybe some listeners, which are not die hard fans, like us, doesn´t recognize such musically details on the songs, they are more happy to have a new vinyl-set with DS songs, more superficial spoken by myself.

But how does it works correctly, such a record-production process ?? Which persones were responsible for that compilation  in the past and today ? MK himself, the record-company, the management
According to that new-edition of MFN, which persons are able to get the mastertapes and to check them out, the acetate-records for the production process. ?  Who made the desicions wich song in which variant is suitable for the record ?? OK, we all knew Bob Ludwig and Bernie Grundman from the mastering and from the laquer-cut processes.

Can this new release be valued as a big mistake of less planned record-producing, record-compiling or something like that ??  

[the visitor]

I find it hard to believe that they would have lost the master for the 1988 release : after all,  the whole catalogue was remastered and reissued on CD in 1996 and MFN formed part of this; Bob Ludwig even undertook remastering duties.

So maybe someone decided to mix things up a bit and they thought they were giving us something new.  I am sure JI and MK must have sanctioned things if Guy was doing a fresh remix of Portobello Belle, for whatever reason they did that.

[TheTimeWasWrong]

I find it hard to believe that they would have lost the master for the 1988 release : after all,  the whole catalogue was remastered and reissued on CD in 1996 and MFN formed part of this; Bob Ludwig even undertook remastering duties.

So maybe someone decided to mix things up a bit and they thought they were giving us something new.  I am sure JI and MK must have sanctioned things if Guy was doing a fresh remix of Portobello Belle, for whatever reason they did that.

Maybe JI, but I honestly believe MK doesn’t give a damn about DS anymore. He went from complete control freak to completely uninterested. I can’t imagine him approving the TR mix.

[Jules]

Regarding Sultans, I didn't played it myself as I don't have the vinyl yet, but someone said in the LP there is the normal studio version, and in the digital platforms there is the single version.

If this is true, this is so rare...