Money for nothing best of in 2 LP format

[the visitor]

I have heard it again and i can say to 100% that the TR version on that new 2-LP-Set is a studio version. The TR version from the CD-Album of 1988 is definitely a live-version. The live-crowd is listenable in any case.
So now the big question: What kind of studio-version is used in the new 2-LP-set And why they used the fast fade-out at the end of the song ??
 
The original 1988 LP-Album does not include TR, not the US, UK, NDL, Japan or other release around the globe. That´s a fact.

The label-inscription say and the track-information on backcover say: Telegraph Road - live (remix). It is the same typesetting and layout like the used layout for the CD-back-cover.

Thanks for confirming. 

[TheTimeWasWrong]

Could the lick at the end of TR be Hal?

[quizzaciously]

Could the lick at the end of TR be Hal?

Just had a listen to Telegraph Road. Never was a fan of a studio version anyway. This "reveal" of the fade-out makes it clear to me NOT to wait for anything new really. If it was cut, it was probably cut for a reason, this is what I tend to think, and this fadeout is another proof of that. I don't know what it is, or who played it, but it deserves the cut. RIP all who kept these rare and expensive acetates with a complete fade-out of this magnitude in secret all this time.

[Stiglar]

I'm so confused as to why they left this TR ending on there, It's got to be a mistake ... right? The Portobello Belle alt version was a bit confusing but I understand if they lost the tapes or wanted a version that was closer to the rest of the alchemy shows (being a hammersmith recording) but this just seems bizarre! Let alone throwing in there that it's "Live" when it clearly isn't. 

EDIT : Sounds like the final lick is Hal to me, Doesn't sound like MK , Playing something that he knows wont' be included as it's supposed to be a fade out!

[onceupon84]

So, we have:

1 - Sultans Of Swing (alternate post-album single version)
2 - New Portobello Belle live from 1983/07/22
3 - Twisting By The Pool EP original version (not 1988 remix)
4 - Telegraph Road (¿acetate version?; 1 - no intro, 2 - first piano notes one octave upped from studio version/different mix, 3- final part with different mix and without fade out)
5 - Brothers In Arms (NEW edit version, 10 seconds longer)


On vinyl Sultans Of Swing is album version.

[JF]

I am listening to the vinyl right now
I confirm : Sultans is the album version on the vinyl !
so the single version is only avalaible on streaming platforms !

what are they doing ??!!!
I agree : it is very very very amateurish....

[onceupon84]

I am listening to the vinyl right now
I confirm : Sultans is the album version on the vinyl !
so the single version is only avalaible on streaming platforms !

what are they doing ??!!!
I agree : it is very very very amateurish....

can you confirm if Twisting By The Pool is remix on vinyl? And Brothers In Arms edit? Is longer than 1988 edit?

[JF]

about TR it makes me think to the uncut version of "almost cut my hair" by CSN on their "Carry on comp released in 91 or the "I shot the sheriff" EC version on the "Life in 12 bars" soundtrack.
in both case, the same version as on originals LP, but the complete take wihout editing

[JF]

I am listening to the vinyl right now
I confirm : Sultans is the album version on the vinyl !
so the single version is only avalaible on streaming platforms !

what are they doing ??!!!
I agree : it is very very very amateurish....

can you confirm if Twisting By The Pool is remix on vinyl? And Brothers In Arms edit? Is longer than 1988 edit?

ok
I am listening to Portobello belle right now which is the "new" version

[JF]

I am listening to the vinyl right now
I confirm : Sultans is the album version on the vinyl !
so the single version is only avalaible on streaming platforms !

what are they doing ??!!!
I agree : it is very very very amateurish....

can you confirm if Twisting By The Pool is remix on vinyl? And Brothers In Arms edit? Is longer than 1988 edit?

ok
I am listening to Portobello belle right now which is the "new" version

twisting sounds like the original EP mix to me
at least we can hear clearly Mark's voice shouting before the solo

[Klaus74]

On the 1988 CD-Album PB runs 4:33min and it starts with the melodic keyboard-sound. The "new" 2-LP-Set version starts a little differently because accompanied to the melodic keyboard-sound i can hear a saxophone very clearly. Getting to the end of both live-versions the saxophone-part joins in again. I don´t know, if it is very remarkable for an exact different version, but there is no sax on the beginning of the CD-version song.
I don´t know the exact running time of the vinyl-version.

[JF]

On the 1988 CD-Album PB runs 4:33min and it starts with the melodic keyboard-sound. The "new" 2-LP-Set version starts a little differently because accompanied to the melodic keyboard-sound i can hear a saxophone very clearly.
I don´t know the exact running time of the vinyl-version.

it's a complete different version

1988 CD was Paris june 20, 1983
2002 vinyl is London july 22, 1983

[Klaus74]

OK, thank you. That is important to know. So those two versions can be classified exactly.

Also interesting to have some more music-historical facts on the "new" used material for the 2-LP-Set. That is my opinion only, but that whole thing, the LP-production, can be more trustworthy to all DS and MK-Fans and collectionists, if the producer of such a product inform the purchasers more exactely about the used different musical material on labels, backcovers or booklets.
The cover-layout with the inscriptions are overtaken from the old 1988 layout from the CD-Album backcover.
More correctly it should be read: (an example from my side only)
Telegraph Road - Alternate Studio-Acetate-Version, Twisting By The Pool - Original EP-record version, Sultans Of Swing - Original Album Version, Brothers In Arms - Long Edit Version or something like that.
To my opinion, Portobello Belle - Live alternative version is the one and only track, which is newly credited in a correct way on labels and backcover.

[JF]

I have a scratch on firstTR verse, and Aurélien Brusset has too
should be a vinyls serie that are unperfect.. ? 

last guitar lick is obvioulsy Hal

the mix sound a little bit raw. so it should be the acetate with a fade in ? 

[Klaus74]

Hello JF.
My copy is pristine and it has no clear damages on the record-surface. The sound is very good and dynamic on my Hi-Fi-Systems. Yes, according to the manufacturing pressing plant called GZ-Media, it is known in the record-collectors-community, that this pressing plant produces really often very faulty records. The production-control is not really perfect, but to my opinion they are learning more and more to produce pristine records. Some other pressing-plants like Pallas (Germany), Optimal-Media (Germany), RTI Technologies (USA), or Music on vinyl (Netherlands) have a higher level on quality-control.