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Author Topic: Money for nothing best of in 2 LP format  (Read 30131 times)

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Re: Money for nothing best of in 2 LP format
« Reply #60 on: May 27, 2022, 07:10:39 PM »

I wonder if that awkward lick at 9:32 was a decision to cut this version that ridiculously early.

I would rather bet it was due to the CD/LP length

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Re: Money for nothing best of in 2 LP format
« Reply #61 on: May 27, 2022, 07:14:17 PM »
I cannot find the exact date Portobello Belle (album Money For Nothing) :think
Do we know which concert  Portobello Belle version is from? From 19 to 23 June (83) they played at the Palais des Sports Paris.
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Re: Money for nothing best of in 2 LP format
« Reply #62 on: May 27, 2022, 07:31:58 PM »
I cannot find the exact date of Portobello Belle (album Money For Nothing) :think
Do we know which concert  Portobello Belle version is from? From 19 to 23 June (83) they played at the Palais des Sports Paris.

It was a mix of dates. Most of the song was from the 21st i think, but some vocal parts were taken from other days, also some musical parts too.
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Re: Money for nothing best of in 2 LP format
« Reply #63 on: May 27, 2022, 07:37:08 PM »
I suspected so. Thanks jbaent:)
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Re: Money for nothing best of in 2 LP format
« Reply #64 on: May 27, 2022, 07:48:27 PM »
Portobello Belle's live version present in the 1988 release compilation MFN, more than 90% comes from the second night in Paris, June 20, 1983, I had noticed that this recording had not been cataloged correctly, it is the PB version that on the bootleg it marks 17:23 min it is in Paris, June 20, 1983 and as I mentioned, more than 90% of it was used for the "hybrid" version in the MFN compilation. There is a topic where I explained this in detail, whoever is interested, here it is.

https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=5824.0
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Re: Money for nothing best of in 2 LP format
« Reply #65 on: May 27, 2022, 11:00:23 PM »
Well this is very good news that we are actually getting a genuine unreleased cut of a song. What is even more encouraging is that this is a new mix by Guy Fletcher so you would hope he has also mixed other tunes too from the previous Alchemy show.  I've only had a quick listen to the new version of PB but it sounds really crisp and the music is raw which is what I like .  Really great to have something new from the archives at last.  For those who like the previous mix of PB, pick up a second hand cd from ebay! More music from the archives please, we have been waiting for this for a long time.  Wouldn't be surprised if there are other surprises to come on the released companion.

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Re: Money for nothing best of in 2 LP format
« Reply #66 on: May 28, 2022, 12:22:49 AM »
Portobello Belle's live version present in the 1988 release compilation MFN, more than 90% comes from the second night in Paris, June 20, 1983, I had noticed that this recording had not been cataloged correctly, it is the PB version that on the bootleg it marks 17:23 min it is in Paris, June 20, 1983 and as I mentioned, more than 90% of it was used for the "hybrid" version in the MFN compilation. There is a topic where I explained this in detail, whoever is interested, here it is.

https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=5824.0

thanks Brunno.
I have mentionned you on my blog post, and put a link to the forum thread

https://textes-blog-rock-n-roll.fr/une-nouvelle-version-live-de-portobello-belle-de-dire-straits/


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Re: Money for nothing best of in 2 LP format
« Reply #67 on: May 28, 2022, 03:11:13 AM »
Interesting choice given that the original live version is so much smoother and tighter,

having said that, cool to hear an alternate version after all these years, Great mix too! Shows what an awesome band they were at the time. 2 shows , 2 different version both great.

I agree. The mix is very good.
But I like the 'old' version better.

Agreed! I like the old version better, I do like that this version is a bit more raw though in some ways.

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Re: Money for nothing best of in 2 LP format
« Reply #68 on: May 28, 2022, 01:03:24 PM »
The difference is negligible tbh on that particular song when the outro is cut.  A different TR I could understand.  Makes you wonder why they bothered, unless they're working on the recording anyway and this is just a teaser...  :think
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Re: Money for nothing best of in 2 LP format
« Reply #69 on: May 28, 2022, 01:50:16 PM »
I am not a big fan of the LOG tour.

PB from1981 is still the one live version for me.
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Re: Money for nothing best of in 2 LP format
« Reply #70 on: May 28, 2022, 03:18:46 PM »
The difference is negligible tbh on that particular song when the outro is cut.  A different TR I could understand.  Makes you wonder why they bothered, unless they're working on the recording anyway and this is just a teaser...  :think

I insist on my theory. They would had liked to use the París versión but something might happened to that tapes so they had to search for Another version of Portobello.

We know them to well to believe they wanted to offer something new by themselves and made the fans happy. Naaaaaa .
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Re: Money for nothing best of in 2 LP format
« Reply #71 on: May 28, 2022, 03:51:30 PM »
The difference is negligible tbh on that particular song when the outro is cut.  A different TR I could understand.  Makes you wonder why they bothered, unless they're working on the recording anyway and this is just a teaser...  :think

I insist on my theory. They would had liked to use the París versión but something might happened to that tapes so they had to search for Another version of Portobello.

We know them to well to believe they wanted to offer something new by themselves and made the fans happy. Naaaaaa .

I think you're right. And it's also an easy thing to justify. Can't work with the source material? Great, give something new instead, that will work.

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Re: Money for nothing best of in 2 LP format
« Reply #72 on: May 28, 2022, 04:08:56 PM »
So we have official 12 song from this tour (not counting Paris version:) I wonder why Portobello Belle from July 22 and not 23 (from the whole concert that is on Alchemy)
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Re: Money for nothing best of in 2 LP format
« Reply #73 on: May 28, 2022, 10:44:02 PM »
The difference is negligible tbh on that particular song when the outro is cut.  A different TR I could understand.  Makes you wonder why they bothered, unless they're working on the recording anyway and this is just a teaser...  :think

I insist on my theory. They would had liked to use the París versión but something might happened to that tapes so they had to search for Another version of Portobello.

We know them to well to believe they wanted to offer something new by themselves and made the fans happy. Naaaaaa .

Perhaps, but they didn't have to change anything.
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Re: Money for nothing best of in 2 LP format
« Reply #74 on: May 28, 2022, 11:28:40 PM »
I am not a big fan of the LOG tour.

PB from1981 is still the one live version for me.

in 81 Hal's solo on PB was out of taste imho
sometimes even out of tune


"not a big fan of the LOG tour" .... you mean not a big fan of Alchemy ?  ::) ???

 

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