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Author Topic: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project  (Read 112992 times)

Offlineqjamesfloyd

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Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
« Reply #645 on: March 04, 2024, 02:56:32 PM »
Let's give Guy some credit here, it would be a huge task for anyone to mix, but we can't honestly judge it on one minute, the people you hear here might weave in and out later, I am excited about this, it's for a GREAT cause. It shows the respect Mark has in the world of music that all these people have participated, and lots of them who I never thought would be associated with Mark, Slash, Vai, Orianthi etc. and how cool is it that the last track played on by Jeff Beck is a Mark Knopfler song :clap
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Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
« Reply #646 on: March 04, 2024, 04:34:16 PM »
Let's give Guy some credit here, it would be a huge task for anyone to mix, but we can't honestly judge it on one minute, the people you hear here might weave in and out later, I am excited about this, it's for a GREAT cause. It shows the respect Mark has in the world of music that all these people have participated, and lots of them who I never thought would be associated with Mark, Slash, Vai, Orianthi etc. and how cool is it that the last track played on by Jeff Beck is a Mark Knopfler song :clap

Totally agree!!
Was also a nice story on the bbc of Guy about the recording and mixing process and how many different versions there were

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Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
« Reply #647 on: March 04, 2024, 04:37:32 PM »
It's a great task indeed.

It's a great cause.

But the result, in my opinion, is a mess.

The first and second are independent from the third.
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Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
« Reply #648 on: March 04, 2024, 04:54:24 PM »
It's a great task indeed.

It's a great cause.

But the result, in my opinion, is a mess.

The first and second are independent from the third.

You haven't even heard the result

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Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
« Reply #649 on: March 04, 2024, 04:56:40 PM »
It's a great task indeed.

It's a great cause.

But the result, in my opinion, is a mess.

The first and second are independent from the third.

I also had to applaud the idea of playing the track on a giant stadium where you can barely make out what it is guitar that's playing, let alone recognise individual players. This is why the original version with the saxophone sounds so good, at least the sax is cutting through the crowd. I want some of the stuff that they are smoking.

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Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
« Reply #650 on: March 04, 2024, 05:02:31 PM »
It's a great task indeed.

It's a great cause.

But the result, in my opinion, is a mess.

The first and second are independent from the third.

You haven't even heard the result

One minute of it was too much already, I'm not sure I could cope with almost 10 minutes of that mess...
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Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
« Reply #651 on: March 04, 2024, 05:07:28 PM »
What kind of mess?
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Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
« Reply #652 on: March 04, 2024, 05:46:01 PM »
What kind of mess?

What the 1-minute preview and a longer version played on the stadium showed us is that it's a "wall of sound" type of thing, with little lines all over the place. Sometimes even harmonising, that's how many guitar parts are there, with the main problem being overabundance of sounds and difficulty of recognising the players unless you have a map to follow along.

Which was rather predictable considering the amount of players involved. While it seems to sound like fun to a lot of people, equally as many people would rather call it a "mess" of sounds. A very dividing track, and I don't think the full version and even mighty Jeff Beck's contribution will change the situation. If they brag about it so much, my doubts increase.

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Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
« Reply #653 on: March 04, 2024, 05:58:30 PM »
GF:

Identification could be tricky. A map is needed which I will share at the right time.
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Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
« Reply #654 on: March 04, 2024, 06:05:16 PM »
Actually I never liked Going Home too much.

So an almost 10 minutes version with a lot of people playing licks non stop, sometimes doubling them... As I said, one minute of it sounds for me like too much, I can't wait to listen to 9 minutes more of that, lol.

But it's a great cause and I bought all formats, digital, LP, cd and cd + Blu-ray.

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Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
« Reply #655 on: March 04, 2024, 06:07:17 PM »
GF:

Identification could be tricky. A map is needed which I will share at the right time.

Well, exactly. To me, the idea of having a map to navigate a song sounds like explaining a joke... And like the famous quote says, "Explaining a joke is like dissecting a frog. You understand it better but the frog dies in the process." Or, and like jbaent and I said many times, it has nothing to do with the cause itself. Buy it, support it, donate to it, they are doing a great job [with the charity].

If anything, being so disappointed by the recording makes me extra sad as I can see both Mark and Guy being utterly happy about it. I want to join the fun or would want to, but can't. I have a microscopic hope that the full version will change my mind, but these hopes are miniscule thanks to teasers and prior experience.

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Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
« Reply #656 on: March 04, 2024, 06:28:20 PM »
Let's give Guy some credit here, it would be a huge task for anyone to mix, but we can't honestly judge it on one minute, the people you hear here might weave in and out later, I am excited about this, it's for a GREAT cause. It shows the respect Mark has in the world of music that all these people have participated, and lots of them who I never thought would be associated with Mark, Slash, Vai, Orianthi etc. and how cool is it that the last track played on by Jeff Beck is a Mark Knopfler song :clap

Totally agree!
Guy really did an absolut fantastic job with the mixing. Sure, I've only heard the short version so far, but it sounded great to me.
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Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
« Reply #657 on: March 04, 2024, 06:30:34 PM »
Actually I never liked Going Home too much.

So an almost 10 minutes version with a lot of people playing licks non stop, sometimes doubling them... As I said, one minute of it sounds for me like too much, I can't wait to listen to 9 minutes more of that, lol.

But it's a great cause and I bought all formats, digital, LP, cd and cd + Blu-ray.

Interesting point about Going Home. I tried to remember when I purposefully listened to it the last time... I mean it's such a loud and energetic track, I wouldn't listen to it just at my leisure, I would much prefer something like "Wild Theme" or a SINGLE electric guitar version of Going Home. Not a terrible fan of the saxophone version either, and of course like many, the only association I have with it is the last song on Mark Knopfler's show. So it's a mixed bag even emotion-wise. One thing you can be certain it's must be atomically emotional for Mark. As long as he's happy, I'll take it.

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Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
« Reply #658 on: March 04, 2024, 06:33:53 PM »
"It shows the respect Mark has in the world of music that all these people have participated, and lots of them who I never thought would be associated with Mark"

Yes, and also the respect of many great musicians for MK.
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Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
« Reply #659 on: March 04, 2024, 06:57:15 PM »
I think many of us feel what the most active ones here have already described, that the result is "doomed" to be chaotic, but the cause is so good and the effort so high that you just got to love it! I guess we'll see the full effect after the  release, but so far, which artists have posted something? I don't follow a lot of guitarists. Clapton has nothing, same with Springsteen. Facebook suggested a Springsteen fanpage where it was mentioned. One of the replies was "I didn't know he (Mark) had a solo career".

 

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