Official YouTube channel for Sydney 1986 concert?

[onceupon84]

Hello,

I discovered today this YouTube channel. It has VEVO word on videos.

The video quality is 720p and Dolby C Stereo sound (some glitches). Much more clear, colour stabilized and more definition than fake 4K upscaled copies.

It is an official channel?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwdASgXA8k-GHMRsJNNeKKQ

[quizzaciously]

Doesn't look official to me.

[binone]

It isn't official, comes from an VHS tape, professionally captured. The uploader is a professional and offered that copy to vevo, but it isn't even hosted in a vevo channel

[onceupon84]

It isn't official, comes from an VHS tape, professionally captured. The uploader is a professional and offered that copy to vevo, but it isn't even hosted in a vevo channel

Really? I think it is not a VHS master capture. It has more definition than a VHS. I think it comes from a digital transfer, not in the best resolution and with the broadcast stereo audio, without clean or new mix.

Why it has VEVO logo on videos? Maybe a new channel from dire straits official management? The videos are upload on February 2021, but I think they stayed hidden this past months.

[binone]

It isn't official, comes from an VHS tape, professionally captured. The uploader is a professional and offered that copy to vevo, but it isn't even hosted in a vevo channel

Really? I think it is not a VHS master capture. It has more definition than a VHS. I think it comes from a digital transfer, not in the best resolution and with the broadcast stereo audio, without clean or new mix.

Why it has VEVO logo on videos? Maybe a new channel from dire straits official management? The videos are upload on February 2021, but I think they stayed hidden this past months.

When I say it is VHS the source, it is because I talked with the guy who uploaded to try to get the original source, and he told me the source was his VHS copy, transferred with a professional capturer, and colored professionally. He also used the same software I use to upgrade and scale the images to 720p. The sound from that video is crappy, compared with the one we got from the Australian fan, which was taken from a reel videotape taken from the broadcaster that produced the show. Sadly, that transfer was made at a low bitrate, so the video there wasn't as good as it should.


Vevo is there just because the guy is a professional videographer and wanted it with the watermark, but Vevo isn't managing this video at all.

[onceupon84]

It isn't official, comes from an VHS tape, professionally captured. The uploader is a professional and offered that copy to vevo, but it isn't even hosted in a vevo channel

Really? I think it is not a VHS master capture. It has more definition than a VHS. I think it comes from a digital transfer, not in the best resolution and with the broadcast stereo audio, without clean or new mix.

Why it has VEVO logo on videos? Maybe a new channel from dire straits official management? The videos are upload on February 2021, but I think they stayed hidden this past months.

When I say it is VHS the source, it is because I talked with the guy who uploaded to try to get the original source, and he told me the source was his VHS copy, transferred with a professional capturer, and colored professionally. He also used the same software I use to upgrade and scale the images to 720p. The sound from that video is crappy, compared with the one we got from the Australian fan, which was taken from a reel videotape taken from the broadcaster that produced the show. Sadly, that transfer was made at a low bitrate, so the video there wasn't as good as it should.


Vevo is there just because the guy is a professional videographer and wanted it with the watermark, but Vevo isn't managing this video at all.

Thanks for the info, excellent job transferring the VHS and bad news about low bitrate capture from reel. Maybe some day we get a real HD transfer.

[dmg]

It doesn't matter about numbers, it looks like the best quality version I've seen of this show.

[rpb424]

It isn't official, comes from an VHS tape, professionally captured. The uploader is a professional and offered that copy to vevo, but it isn't even hosted in a vevo channel

Really? I think it is not a VHS master capture. It has more definition than a VHS. I think it comes from a digital transfer, not in the best resolution and with the broadcast stereo audio, without clean or new mix.

Why it has VEVO logo on videos? Maybe a new channel from dire straits official management? The videos are upload on February 2021, but I think they stayed hidden this past months.

When I say it is VHS the source, it is because I talked with the guy who uploaded to try to get the original source, and he told me the source was his VHS copy, transferred with a professional capturer, and colored professionally. He also used the same software I use to upgrade and scale the images to 720p. The sound from that video is crappy, compared with the one we got from the Australian fan, which was taken from a reel videotape taken from the broadcaster that produced the show. Sadly, that transfer was made at a low bitrate, so the video there wasn't as good as it should.


Vevo is there just because the guy is a professional videographer and wanted it with the watermark, but Vevo isn't managing this video at all.

Thanks for the info, excellent job transferring the VHS and bad news about low bitrate capture from reel. Maybe some day we get a real HD transfer.

Highly unlikely, as the show would have been recorded on a standard definition videotape machine (1 inch C Format was popular back then). HiDef professional VTRs didn’t exist at that point - there wasn’t even a standard defined.  Best you could hope for would be a good quality HD upconvert from an SD master rather than a true HD transfer.

The only reason Alchemy was eventually released in HD was because the show was captured on 16mm film cameras rather than to videotape, and 16mm has ‘just’ enough resolution to support HD transfers.

[onceupon84]

It isn't official, comes from an VHS tape, professionally captured. The uploader is a professional and offered that copy to vevo, but it isn't even hosted in a vevo channel

Really? I think it is not a VHS master capture. It has more definition than a VHS. I think it comes from a digital transfer, not in the best resolution and with the broadcast stereo audio, without clean or new mix.

Why it has VEVO logo on videos? Maybe a new channel from dire straits official management? The videos are upload on February 2021, but I think they stayed hidden this past months.

When I say it is VHS the source, it is because I talked with the guy who uploaded to try to get the original source, and he told me the source was his VHS copy, transferred with a professional capturer, and colored professionally. He also used the same software I use to upgrade and scale the images to 720p. The sound from that video is crappy, compared with the one we got from the Australian fan, which was taken from a reel videotape taken from the broadcaster that produced the show. Sadly, that transfer was made at a low bitrate, so the video there wasn't as good as it should.


Vevo is there just because the guy is a professional videographer and wanted it with the watermark, but Vevo isn't managing this video at all.

Thanks for the info, excellent job transferring the VHS and bad news about low bitrate capture from reel. Maybe some day we get a real HD transfer.

Highly unlikely, as the show would have been recorded on a standard definition videotape machine (1 inch C Format was popular back then). HiDef professional VTRs didn’t exist at that point - there wasn’t even a standard defined.  Best you could hope for would be a good quality HD upconvert from an SD master rather than a true HD transfer.

The only reason Alchemy was eventually released in HD was because the show was captured on 16mm film cameras rather than to videotape, and 16mm has ‘just’ enough resolution to support HD transfers.

Good info. Can you confirm if the YouTube channel that I share is truly a VHS to 720p upscaled transfer or it is a SD 576p master upconverted to HD 720p? Another user says that it is VHS transfer but I doubt it, I'm watching again the songs and the definition is better than a standard VHS 480p upscale

[binone]

It isn't official, comes from an VHS tape, professionally captured. The uploader is a professional and offered that copy to vevo, but it isn't even hosted in a vevo channel

Really? I think it is not a VHS master capture. It has more definition than a VHS. I think it comes from a digital transfer, not in the best resolution and with the broadcast stereo audio, without clean or new mix.

Why it has VEVO logo on videos? Maybe a new channel from dire straits official management? The videos are upload on February 2021, but I think they stayed hidden this past months.

When I say it is VHS the source, it is because I talked with the guy who uploaded to try to get the original source, and he told me the source was his VHS copy, transferred with a professional capturer, and colored professionally. He also used the same software I use to upgrade and scale the images to 720p. The sound from that video is crappy, compared with the one we got from the Australian fan, which was taken from a reel videotape taken from the broadcaster that produced the show. Sadly, that transfer was made at a low bitrate, so the video there wasn't as good as it should.


Vevo is there just because the guy is a professional videographer and wanted it with the watermark, but Vevo isn't managing this video at all.

Thanks for the info, excellent job transferring the VHS and bad news about low bitrate capture from reel. Maybe some day we get a real HD transfer.

Highly unlikely, as the show would have been recorded on a standard definition videotape machine (1 inch C Format was popular back then). HiDef professional VTRs didn’t exist at that point - there wasn’t even a standard defined.  Best you could hope for would be a good quality HD upconvert from an SD master rather than a true HD transfer.

The only reason Alchemy was eventually released in HD was because the show was captured on 16mm film cameras rather than to videotape, and 16mm has ‘just’ enough resolution to support HD transfers.

Good info. Can you confirm if the YouTube channel that I share is truly a VHS to 720p upscaled transfer or it is a SD 576p master upconverted to HD 720p? Another user says that it is VHS transfer but I doubt it, I'm watching again the songs and the definition is better than a standard VHS 480p upscale

I can confirm you it is VHS upscaled with Topaz Video enhancer software (AI) to 720p. This is what the uploader said.

[rpb424]

What did the VHS come from? I’d guess it was probably direct from an Australian off-air broadcast, in which case it would have started out as 576i on tape rather than 480i (Australia used the PAL system). Note interlaced (i) too, with the conversion to progressive (p) happening during the upconvert.

[onceupon84]

What did the VHS come from? I’d guess it was probably direct from an Australian off-air broadcast, in which case it would have started out as 576i on tape rather than 480i (Australia used the PAL system). Note interlaced (i) too, with the conversion to progressive (p) happening during the upconvert.

I think this is the most probably origin (master from 576i). On BIA 4:36-5:12 you can see Knopfler's hair very clear, it is impossible to edit with AI from a VHS copy and get this colour balance and sharpness, there is no lot of noise reduction on image.

I think this is the closest copy from the master, or the cleanest conversion. Even better if AI is not applied (uploader says it is applied).

[rpb424]

I’m confused. It has been stated that the source is VHS, but you appear to be saying that the quality you think you can see in places implies that it must actually be from something better?

Remember also that the VHS would have been 576i if recorded in Australia, not 480i (which it would be in NTSC countries like the USA). VHS does not automatically imply 480 everywhere, and describes the number of horizontal lines making up the picture, which would always match between what is broadcast and what ends on VHS in the same country.

[binone]

You can read my conversation with the uploader in this video comments:



There is explained all the origins and technical capture process.

[Klaus74]

Yes, that remastered videos are looking and sounding fine. Really cool details, on some songs, like the view in the audience with the dancing people, the graphics from the MFN-Video, or the blue lights on ID. Much sharper and clearer than other video versions on the tube. Just have a closer look to the background details. Amazing for such an old video. Well done, indeed.