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Re: New for 2022
« Reply #510 on: August 02, 2022, 02:41:34 PM »
I'm no expert on the economics of concerts but it was notable that they played to stadiums at the end of the tour where presumably they can make more money per show.

Yes, and they played, for example, in Spain, in towns where usually nobody that big goes, and all stadiums.

I guess that if they wanted, they could had played in 12 more cities, in football stadiums, and fill all of them, but I guess at that time they simply wanted to finish.

Same in UK.  I mean Ipswich Town FC?

Still, it's not as bad as Elton John and The Killers playing Falkirk FC in more recent times!

They also played at Gateshead stadium, come on! MK is a geordie, play at St James's Park!!!!!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

A lot of clubs don't want these type of events, often they have to rip up and replace the pitch afterwards.

I have a soft spot for this run of shows as MK signed my poster advertising them.
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Re: New for 2022
« Reply #511 on: August 18, 2022, 07:27:25 PM »
Some months ago I got a gossip from someone, who obviusly I can't mention, very close to MK and his people, and looks like MK is very determined that concerts are over, but his management and musicians, whenever they can, try to convince him, very carefully, about doing at least some gigs when the new record comes out, but looks like right now, there are very few chances that happens.

I truly hoped that, after gather with his band, recording the songs, he might changed his mind, but by now it didn't. I still hope that when the record comes out, he feels like playing some gigs and present those songs live, even a small number of gigs, but I'm kind of negative about it.

Did you hear any rumors lately that MK has changed his mind regarding live dates for 2023?
Usually we got news in August/September for a tour the following year.

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Re: New for 2022
« Reply #512 on: August 19, 2022, 10:20:25 AM »
No, he's very determinated with that.

But I know that when the time approach those around him will try to convince him to present the record live, but forget about touring.
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Re: New for 2022
« Reply #513 on: August 19, 2022, 06:58:48 PM »
No, he's very determinated with that.

But I know that when the time approach those around him will try to convince him to present the record live, but forget about touring.

Thanks, I just had some hope for news this August/September.
But better to know that there won't be a tour announcement.

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Re: New for 2022
« Reply #514 on: August 19, 2022, 07:19:33 PM »
No, he's very determinated with that.

But I know that when the time approach those around him will try to convince him to present the record live, but forget about touring.

Thanks, I just had some hope for news this August/September.
But better to know that there won't be a tour announcement.

At this point, I only have hopes for some gigs maybe in the UK, maybe in London, sort of MK and friends gigs, when the record comes out, but I dream he kind of feel like doing some travels and play selected venues in Europe, but I try to keep calm and assume that's what I wish, not what he wants to do...
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Re: New for 2022
« Reply #515 on: August 19, 2022, 09:01:53 PM »
For sure he will miss performing live on a stage.
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Re: New for 2022
« Reply #516 on: August 20, 2022, 09:46:01 AM »
For sure he will miss performing live on a stage.

I hope so
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Re: New for 2022
« Reply #517 on: August 21, 2022, 11:00:15 AM »
Nah! Yorkshire tea or at best, PG tips!! ;D

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Loose tea isn't fresh either, it's dried just like in tea bags!     :)

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Re: New for 2022
« Reply #518 on: August 22, 2022, 08:58:40 AM »
Between yesterday and today I had an ephifany, MK is going to play live in May 2023...

Yesterday my wife tells me: "I hope you din't have plans for traveling to any concert on May, we have a family commintement!"

And this morning I heard on the radio that next May there are going to be local elections, with the risk of being called to an Electoral council.

When both things coincide, MK is playing live gigs and, with the first example, I miss the MK gig, and with the second, I'm always with the fear of being called and being not able to attend the MK gig, so, this is an ephifany, we are going to have a MK gig on May!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

 
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Re: New for 2022
« Reply #519 on: August 22, 2022, 09:44:22 AM »
Between yesterday and today I had an ephifany, MK is going to play live in May 2023...

Yesterday my wife tells me: "I hope you din't have plans for traveling to any concert on May, we have a family commintement!"

And this morning I heard on the radio that next May there are going to be local elections, with the risk of being called to an Electoral council.

When both things coincide, MK is playing live gigs and, with the first example, I miss the MK gig, and with the second, I'm always with the fear of being called and being not able to attend the MK gig, so, this is an ephifany, we are going to have a MK gig on May!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

We wouldn't need an epiphany for that :). If MK had wanted to play next May, it would be fixed by now and we would just be waiting for an announcement (or an advance notice of an announcement). Since we know thanks to you that he is determined not to play shows next year, it's more a wishful dream you had.... as many of us have these months preceeding the album release...
And I am really very grateful to you for sharing with us MK's decision, it saves me many months of longingly but ultimately futile waiting for an announcement that won't come after all.
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Re: New for 2022
« Reply #520 on: August 22, 2022, 10:08:55 AM »
Between yesterday and today I had an ephifany, MK is going to play live in May 2023...

Yesterday my wife tells me: "I hope you din't have plans for traveling to any concert on May, we have a family commintement!"

And this morning I heard on the radio that next May there are going to be local elections, with the risk of being called to an Electoral council.

When both things coincide, MK is playing live gigs and, with the first example, I miss the MK gig, and with the second, I'm always with the fear of being called and being not able to attend the MK gig, so, this is an ephifany, we are going to have a MK gig on May!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

We wouldn't need an epiphany for that. If MK had wanted to play next May, it would be fixed by now and we would just be waiting for an announcement (or an advance notice of an announcement). Since we know thanks to you that he is determined not to play shows next year, it's more a wishful dream you had.... as many of us have these months preceeding the album release...

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Re: New for 2022
« Reply #521 on: August 22, 2022, 10:24:58 AM »
Between yesterday and today I had an ephifany, MK is going to play live in May 2023...

Yesterday my wife tells me: "I hope you din't have plans for traveling to any concert on May, we have a family commintement!"

And this morning I heard on the radio that next May there are going to be local elections, with the risk of being called to an Electoral council.

When both things coincide, MK is playing live gigs and, with the first example, I miss the MK gig, and with the second, I'm always with the fear of being called and being not able to attend the MK gig, so, this is an ephifany, we are going to have a MK gig on May!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

We wouldn't need an epiphany for that :). If MK had wanted to play next May, it would be fixed by now and we would just be waiting for an announcement (or an advance notice of an announcement). Since we know thanks to you that he is determined not to play shows next year, it's more a wishful dream you had.... as many of us have these months preceeding the album release...
And I am really very grateful to you for sharing with us MK's decision, it saves me many months of longingly but ultimately futile waiting for an announcement that won't come after all.

As Dusty says, I was just having fun with those two things that usually happens to me when I have a MK gig to attend...

But I think there is a missunderstanding. MK is determinated not to TOUR. What people around him are trying to persuade him is to play shows, which is very different.

The situation by now is very small, close to zero chances that there is any new tour, but there are small chances of some live shows, probably in London or in the UK, depending on MK mood when the release date of the new record is approaching. They still don't know when the record is going to be released, or maybe they do but they didn't tell, they also can have some venues booked just in case, that they can release if they are not using them, that's something we don't know, but if they have hopes to persuade him to do some shows, yes, they should had a venue or two booked. If they did it, they can announce it with little advance, as far as it is just in London or in selected cities in the UK, there is no need to an advanced announcement at all, as there is no need of big preparations.

I also have hopes that after the record is released, there might be some shows to play the new songs live. But i have NO hopes at all that he will tour again.
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Re: New for 2022
« Reply #522 on: August 22, 2022, 10:46:47 AM »
Thanks for your update and your explanation.
Even if MK would just play some shows in the UK to promote the new album, the decision would have been made by now and musicians, venues, roadies and sound technicians would have been booked by now. If it won't be simply something like "a man, a chair and a guitar", it can't be short-term planning. MK knows what he wants and he is planning well. He is a pro.
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Re: New for 2022
« Reply #523 on: August 22, 2022, 12:22:00 PM »
Thanks for your update and your explanation.
Even if MK would just play some shows in the UK to promote the new album, the decision would have been made by now and musicians, venues, roadies and sound technicians would have been booked by now. If it won't be simply something like "a man, a chair and a guitar", it can't be short-term planning. MK knows what he wants and he is planning well. He is a pro.

Well, there is no need of so much advance for a couple of shows, think about the showcases MK uses to play to promote gigs, he has technicians in his own studio at hand , but yes, a little anticipation is needed, and there are always musicians that can be available, for example, for a bass player, if Glenn Worf is busy with sessions, he can call Marcus Cliffe, David bronze or Ewan Vernel, which is what he does for the showcases, same goes for the rest of musicians.

Planning some one off shows is not the same than planning a tour, but yes, there is some anticipation needed, and my guess is if they have booked venues just in case, they might had booked the musicians just in case, because as far as I know, MK is determinated to not play live, and they know for sure it means no touring, but they have hopes he would do some shows to promote the record, if there are proper gigs in a proper venue, the better, if not, they might be showcases, in that case, I hope there is a chance to buy tickets.

I also guess his band mates, Guy, John, Mike, the Americans, when talking to MK and with extra care and sensibility, they try to convince him to play live again, but in the end, is MK who has the last word.
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Re: New for 2022
« Reply #524 on: August 22, 2022, 12:31:22 PM »
Less financial risk with a handful of shows as well. The financial costs of having to cancel shows due to someone getting covid must be astronomical.
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