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Offlinequizzaciously

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Re: New for 2022
« Reply #315 on: March 23, 2022, 03:12:44 PM »
If I'm getting digital stuff I might as well just steal it.

Sorry, but that's the way I feel after pouring money into the likes of The Beatles, Dylan etc for decades. They have had enough of my money for the same old shit! But new releases I will happily buy a physical product. :)

I usually use digital stuff just to take a listen on certain records from certain artists, and if I like it, I buy it, if not, I simply forget about that.

I love buying hi-res versions of albums. I remember enjoying Tracker in HD, in 192 kHz, 24-bit audio and all.

I don't know if I can hear the difference with hi-rez. Mind you, I'm a lot older than you, and I've played in bands for 25 years!

I can't hear the difference either ;D

To me, hi-rez simply means "the best version of the album". If I can get it and listen to that without skipping songs and all (aka listening to albums), it makes for a pretty exquisite experience. Almost like enjoying vinyl, only in digital. It's like Spotify is fast-food music and hi-rez is a fine music restaurant.

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Re: New for 2022
« Reply #316 on: March 23, 2022, 05:57:25 PM »
If I'm getting digital stuff I might as well just steal it.

Sorry, but that's the way I feel after pouring money into the likes of The Beatles, Dylan etc for decades. They have had enough of my money for the same old shit! But new releases I will happily buy a physical product. :)

I usually use digital stuff just to take a listen on certain records from certain artists, and if I like it, I buy it, if not, I simply forget about that.

I love buying hi-res versions of albums. I remember enjoying Tracker in HD, in 192 kHz, 24-bit audio and all.

I don't know if I can hear the difference with hi-rez. Mind you, I'm a lot older than you, and I've played in bands for 25 years!

I can't hear the difference either ;D

To me, hi-rez simply means "the best version of the album". If I can get it and listen to that without skipping songs and all (aka listening to albums), it makes for a pretty exquisite experience. Almost like enjoying vinyl, only in digital. It's like Spotify is fast-food music and hi-rez is a fine music restaurant.

OK, well in that case I would argue that the hi-rez files are likley in many cases to not be the "best" version.

To me, the mastering is much more important.

The loudness wars from the 2000s on have really squished the dynamics of a lot of albums. A 1985 CD of Brothers in Arms for example will sound much better than the 2005 remaster.

I personally have started collecting early CDs - it's fun to collect, they are cheap, and in may cases they sound better than subsequent remasters.
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Re: New for 2022
« Reply #317 on: March 23, 2022, 10:35:21 PM »
If I'm getting digital stuff I might as well just steal it.

Sorry, but that's the way I feel after pouring money into the likes of The Beatles, Dylan etc for decades. They have had enough of my money for the same old shit! But new releases I will happily buy a physical product. :)

I usually use digital stuff just to take a listen on certain records from certain artists, and if I like it, I buy it, if not, I simply forget about that.

I love buying hi-res versions of albums. I remember enjoying Tracker in HD, in 192 kHz, 24-bit audio and all.

I don't know if I can hear the difference with hi-rez. Mind you, I'm a lot older than you, and I've played in bands for 25 years!

I can't hear the difference either ;D

To me, hi-rez simply means "the best version of the album". If I can get it and listen to that without skipping songs and all (aka listening to albums), it makes for a pretty exquisite experience. Almost like enjoying vinyl, only in digital. It's like Spotify is fast-food music and hi-rez is a fine music restaurant.


What is the purpose of high rez as a play back media ?

Sample rate allow to encode higher frequencies that are already outside of human hearing capabilities but if you want to play music for your dog - it is usefull.
Sample deeph allow you to encode higher dynamic so that when listening a very quiet part then a loud part can be encoded even louder for the sake of your hearing loss and neighbourhood peace.
Actually I don't know any existing CD that is using the full dynamic range of the media. Ravel's Bolero encoded dynamic should be topping at something like 60/70 db - try to play it at audible level from start and let it go to the end without lowering it with  the volume knob.

Of course using high rez for recording, mixing and mastering is usefull because you have to keep the best possible s/n ratio, but that is before the playback step.

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Re: New for 2022
« Reply #318 on: March 24, 2022, 07:16:30 AM »
I fully agree with the loudness theory. It does not matter whether the music is high res or not if the dynamics are not good. There is a page https://dr.loudness-war.info on which you can check out dynamic ranges of albums. I have bought my CDs based on the inputs there and the results were always great


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Re: New for 2022
« Reply #319 on: March 24, 2022, 07:27:16 AM »
I fully agree with the loudness theory. It does not matter whether the music is high res or not if the dynamics are not good. There is a page https://dr.loudness-war.info on which you can check out dynamic ranges of albums. I have bought my CDs based on the inputs there and the results were always great
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Re: New for 2022
« Reply #320 on: March 24, 2022, 09:18:08 AM »
I'm angry. I don't need vinyl if CD gives me all the new songs. Album could be released this year but vinyl will delay the premiere.

Think there is more to worry about in the World than a little delay on MK releasing his album because of the Vinyl issue!!!
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Re: New for 2022
« Reply #321 on: March 24, 2022, 11:53:50 AM »
Of course. But using this logic, we have nothing to talk about in the forum.
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Re: New for 2022
« Reply #322 on: March 24, 2022, 12:34:36 PM »
Of course. But using this logic, we have nothing to talk about in the forum.

Don't worry, we'll find something  ;D :lol
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Re: New for 2022
« Reply #323 on: March 24, 2022, 12:44:32 PM »
Of course. But using this logic, we have nothing to talk about in the forum.

Don't worry, we'll find something  ;D :lol

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Re: New for 2022
« Reply #324 on: March 24, 2022, 08:51:35 PM »
I also prefer original-vinyls and original CDs, NOT CD-Rs.  8)
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Re: New for 2022
« Reply #325 on: April 13, 2022, 12:53:44 PM »
GF:

there is a lot going on in the next few months but rest assured, it will be interesting.

Thank you jbaent :)
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Re: New for 2022
« Reply #326 on: June 06, 2022, 09:30:24 AM »
GF:

there is a lot going on in the next few months but rest assured, it will be interesting.

Thank you jbaent :)

I wonder when we will hear something about those new exiting projects they are working on. 2023   :think

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Re: New for 2022
« Reply #327 on: June 09, 2022, 10:05:45 AM »
Guy today on the progress of the new album:

I can tell you that progress is slow due to other projects which have eaten in to our time.

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Re: New for 2022
« Reply #328 on: June 09, 2022, 01:01:27 PM »
projects?
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Re: New for 2022
« Reply #329 on: June 09, 2022, 07:45:58 PM »
projects?
a) Local Hero Chichester
b) Buddy Holly / Teenage Cancer Foundation
c) combinations of mics/amp/guitar not yet tested  ;D

 

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