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Re: MK - Christmas Connections?
« Reply #30 on: December 16, 2021, 11:01:10 PM »
How about the middle bit of TR?

Radio says tonight its gonna freeze.....

That could be any day of the British weather couldn’t it?

Yes but the song isn't set in Britain  ;)

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Re: MK - Christmas Connections?
« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2021, 06:11:21 AM »
How about the middle bit of TR?

Radio says tonight its gonna freeze.....

That could be any day of the British weather couldn’t it?

Yes but the song isn't set in Britain  ;)

Me thinks MagicElliott was trying to be funny! We all know TR isn't set in the UK :wave
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Re: MK - Christmas Connections?
« Reply #32 on: December 17, 2021, 09:48:27 AM »
THANKS to you guys I've created my first MK Christmas playlist. Great thread!  :clap
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Re: MK - Christmas Connections?
« Reply #33 on: December 17, 2021, 10:05:13 AM »
THANKS to you guys I've created my first MK Christmas playlist. Great thread!  :clap

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Re: MK - Christmas Connections?
« Reply #34 on: December 17, 2021, 04:15:52 PM »
5.15am - certainly set during Winter time in the North...

'Snow laying all around'

'a shroud of snow upon the roof'
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Re: MK - Christmas Connections?
« Reply #35 on: December 17, 2021, 04:19:47 PM »
'After the Beanstalk' - I always think of the Pantomime version of 'Jack & the Beanstalk'
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Re: MK - Christmas Connections?
« Reply #36 on: December 17, 2021, 04:23:22 PM »
5.15am - certainly set during Winter time in the North...

'Snow laying all around'

'a shroud of snow upon the roof'

Yes you are right. I also return to this crime story in winter, but not during Christmas :)
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Re: MK - Christmas Connections?
« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2021, 04:29:43 PM »
Another one - Skydiver...

The famous Wincanton races which take place each year on Boxing Day!

'Today I lost a packet at Wincanton
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Re: MK - Christmas Connections?
« Reply #38 on: December 17, 2021, 04:31:52 PM »
River Towns has also a setting at Christmas days in the lyrics, although not very happy one.

And funny how mind works - suddenly Vic And Ray appeared, Christmas Morning, here they are..

LE

River Towns as LE has quite rightly pointed out..

It’s quiet over Christmas
If you got no place to go
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Re: MK - Christmas Connections?
« Reply #39 on: December 17, 2021, 04:58:17 PM »
5.15am - certainly set during Winter time in the North...

'Snow laying all around'

'a shroud of snow upon the roof'

Yes you are right. I also return to this crime story in winter, but not during Christmas :)

5.15am on 5th January 1967 according to wiki.
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Re: MK - Christmas Connections?
« Reply #40 on: December 17, 2021, 05:00:40 PM »
5.15am - certainly set during Winter time in the North...

'Snow laying all around'

'a shroud of snow upon the roof'

Yes you are right. I also return to this crime story in winter, but not during Christmas :)

5.15am on 5th January 1967 according to wiki.

Ah of course 'The one armed bandit murder'
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Re: MK - Christmas Connections?
« Reply #41 on: December 17, 2021, 05:05:37 PM »
At 5.15 a.m. on a cold morning in January 1967, Durham coal miner Tom Leak was cycling home from his night'sshift at the local pit.

In South Hetton, just past PesspoolBridge, he noticed a Mark X Jaguar
saloon car, poorly parked, about fourteen inches from the kerb, and also damaged. Snow covered the backwindow, bonnet and much of the top. He cupped his hands and peered intothe car through the near-side passenger window. A man was lying across theback seat. Leak opened the door, said loudly,'Hey, mate, you can't park there,' and shook his left leg. As he did so, Leakrealised that the man was dead. He hailed three passing colleagues, alsogoing home, and they called the police. A local GP, Dr John Hunter, was then summoned, though the police advised him not to touch the body. It was clear that the man, who had been shot three times, was a murder victim - Angus Sibbet'

The key though to the song is the miner whose presence in the tale reflects on both the murderous events that took place in the 60's but also a mining disaster that took place in the previous century. All the pieces are accurately told right down to the cars in the story. The final verse when what i assume are the ghosts of mining folk from the disaster ather round the car is filled with the names given to there respective jobs including the pit ponies.

The theory put forward by the prosecutors of the murder was that the vicitm had been skimming money off his collections and that the club owners he worked for (owners of The Birdcage Club) got wise to this and killed him although the actual evidence was very flimsy and the final surviving defendant has always proclaimed his innocence.

If you have an affinitiy with the north east of england the song is very moving, to me the final verse is one of the most beautiful he has yet penned.
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Re: MK - Christmas Connections?
« Reply #42 on: December 17, 2021, 06:09:31 PM »
I am not sure but I think "hard shoulder" hasn't be quoted.... "Chains for the snow"
not especially Christmas, but a I find a winter mood in that song

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Re: MK - Christmas Connections?
« Reply #43 on: December 18, 2021, 08:36:40 AM »
I am not sure but I think "hard shoulder" hasn't be quoted.... "Chains for the snow"
not especially Christmas, but a I find a winter mood in that song

Very good JF, indeed Chains for the tyres in the snow.....like it..
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Re: MK - Christmas Connections?
« Reply #44 on: December 20, 2021, 09:51:02 PM »
Another song which has a tenuous Christmas connection is One More Matinee, the line 'we're proud to be the oldest ugly sisters in variety' makes me think of the pantomime versions of Cinderella (which seems to fit the song lyric as the ugly sisters are usually played by middle aged men), come to think of it there are lines later in the song about a fairy and going to the ball which also fit this theme.
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