Daily Mail 'DS Legacy' - 3rd August 2021

[NicoMK]

Okay a quick internet search shows no George Michael tour in 2005 but only some Live 8 gigs. So it seems there was not such a big problem to George and Phil was not very reliable.

LE

Don't have the book right now to check, I see George Michael had a 2006-2008 tour, so maybe Danny was to be in that tour but had to say no in order to be with MK, and that's what Palmer doesn't remember correctly? Dunno, but it's written in his book that Danny left the George Michael band for a tour to be with MK...

So maybe he was referring to the 2006 MK tour with Emmy... but Danny being Mark's drummer for one year already at the time left George Michael enough time to find a suitable replacement. But Danny definitely toured with GM in 2008, so before or after the tour with MK the same year.

[quizzaciously]

Okay a quick internet search shows no George Michael tour in 2005 but only some Live 8 gigs. So it seems there was not such a big problem to George and Phil was not very reliable.

LE

Don't have the book right now to check, I see George Michael had a 2006-2008 tour, so maybe Danny was to be in that tour but had to say no in order to be with MK, and that's what Palmer doesn't remember correctly? Dunno, but it's written in his book that Danny left the George Michael band for a tour to be with MK...

So maybe he was referring to the 2006 MK tour with Emmy... but Danny being Mark's drummer for one year already at the time left George Michael enough time to find a suitable replacement. But Danny definitely toured with GM in 2008, so before or after the tour with MK the same year.

As great as Phil can be is as a musician, this whole "3 chord trick" situation he got himself into and some of his friends don't make anything that he or they says legit to me. If they think that their band sounds exactly the same as Dire Straits, then they might as well say that the Earth is flat or something along those lines. I have absolutely no trust in anything Legacy-related, if you can't already tell.

[Knopflerfan]

Okay a quick internet search shows no George Michael tour in 2005 but only some Live 8 gigs. So it seems there was not such a big problem to George and Phil was not very reliable.

LE

Don't have the book right now to check, I see George Michael had a 2006-2008 tour, so maybe Danny was to be in that tour but had to say no in order to be with MK, and that's what Palmer doesn't remember correctly? Dunno, but it's written in his book that Danny left the George Michael band for a tour to be with MK...

So maybe he was referring to the 2006 MK tour with Emmy... but Danny being Mark's drummer for one year already at the time left George Michael enough time to find a suitable replacement. But Danny definitely toured with GM in 2008, so before or after the tour with MK the same year.

As great as Phil can be is as a musician, this whole "3 chord trick" situation he got himself into and some of his friends don't make anything that he or they says legit to me. If they think that their band sounds exactly the same as Dire Straits, then they might as well say that the Earth is flat or something along those lines. I have absolutely no trust in anything Legacy-related, if you can't already tell.

100% with you on the Legacy rubbish!

[qjamesfloyd]

I don't see what the problem is, Mark is seeing his band being misrepresented, they might not be recording or touring anymore as Dire Straits, but they are still a legal entity, the group has a website, which also sells official merchandise, and they selling albums under the name still, so why would he want that name tarnished? We don't know if there are any plans in the future for Dire Straits, so Mark is well within his rights to do what he feels is correct with regards to the brand name. If I was in his position I would do the same. Don't forget Paul McCartney rebought the publishing rights to The Beatles songs from Michael Jackson so he could control what happened to his songs, it wasn't just a financial thing for him.

[Knopflerfan]

I don't see what the problem is, Mark is seeing his band being misrepresented, they might not be recording or touring anymore as Dire Straits, but they are still a legal entity, the group has a website, which also sells official merchandise, and they selling albums under the name still, so why would he want that name tarnished? We don't know if there are any plans in the future for Dire Straits, so Mark is well within his rights to do what he feels is correct with regards to the brand name. If I was in his position I would do the same. Don't forget Paul McCartney rebought the publishing rights to The Beatles songs from Michael Jackson so he could control what happened to his songs, it wasn't just a financial thing for him.

Well said!!!

[Jules]

The George Michael tour Phil Palmer talks in his book when mentioning Danny leaving to join MK was the "25 live", he mentions 2005 and 2006 in the paged. I took a picture of the page where Phil mentions about Danny leaving George Michael tour to joins MK one.

[NicoMK]

Thanks for this jbaent. However, the sentence "Danny started the 25 Live concerts but was scheduled to join Mark Knopfler on tour" means that Mark's tour was most probably scheduled before George Michael's. Considering the dates, we're probably talking about the tour with Emmy here. Once again, I don't see Danny starting a tour with one and let the other one down. Plus, Phil Palmer mentions no issue about it so all must have been well scheduled before everything starts.

I don't know how long GM's tour lasted - Palmer says 106 shows - but I'm pretty certain that Danny rejoined his band as a percussionist in 2008. It means that our man had a pretty tough schedule between 2005 and 2008 with two huge names in the business (and probably other things too). Let's see :

- the Shangri-la Tour in 2005
- the Emmy-MK Tour in 2006
- the recording of the KTGC record in 2007 + various promos
- the MK tour in 2008
- and the GM tour in 2008 also.

And Phil Palmer is another one to say that it's great to have Danny around

Well done Dan! 


EDIT : a quick search on the web and here you have all the dates of the 25 Live Tour, from 2006 to 2008 and nothing in 2005 :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/25_Live#Tour_dates

EDIT 2 : and you can see Danny here, in summer 2008 :

[Knopflerfan]

Thanks for this jbaent. However, the sentence "Danny started the 25 Live concerts but was scheduled to join Mark Knopfler on tour" means that Mark's tour was most probably scheduled before George Michael's. Considering the dates, we're probably talking about the tour with Emmy here. Once again, I don't see Danny starting a tour with one and let the other one down. Plus, Phil Palmer mentions no issue about it so all must have been well scheduled before everything starts.

I don't know how long GM's tour lasted - Palmer says 106 shows - but I'm pretty certain that Danny rejoined his band as a percussionist in 2008. It means that our man had a pretty tough schedule between 2005 and 2008 with two huge names in the business (and probably other things too). Let's see :

- the Shangri-la Tour in 2005
- the Emmy-MK Tour in 2006
- the recording of the KTGC record in 2007 + various promos
- the MK tour in 2008
- and the GM tour in 2008 also.

And Phil Palmer is another one to say that it's great to have Danny around

Well done Dan! 


EDIT : a quick search on the web and here you have all the dates of the 25 Live Tour, from 2006 to 2008 and nothing in 2005 :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/25_Live#Tour_dates

EDIT 2 : and you can see Danny here, in summer 2008 :

Oh, Danny boy, oh Danny boy, I love you so! to quote a very famous song....

[dustyvalentino]

The George Michael tour Phil Palmer talks in his book when mentioning Danny leaving to join MK was the "25 live", he mentions 2005 and 2006 in the paged. I took a picture of the page where Phil mentions about Danny leaving George Michael tour to joins MK one.

Lols, I wonder who guitarist two was.

[NicoMK]

The George Michael tour Phil Palmer talks in his book when mentioning Danny leaving to join MK was the "25 live", he mentions 2005 and 2006 in the paged. I took a picture of the page where Phil mentions about Danny leaving George Michael tour to joins MK one.

Lols, I wonder who guitarist two was.

Graham Kearns and Mike Brown if it helps

[peterromer]

Thanks for info.

I dont care how musically different MK and GM is (was), I would have loved GM to sing one of MK´s songs. Such a brilliant and superb  voice, one of the best ever.   


 

[Jules]

The George Michael tour Phil Palmer talks in his book when mentioning Danny leaving to join MK was the "25 live", he mentions 2005 and 2006 in the paged. I took a picture of the page where Phil mentions about Danny leaving George Michael tour to joins MK one.

Lols, I wonder who guitarist two was.

Graham Kearns and Mike Brown if it helps

Someone called Brown played guitar for MK in the band that recorded the Golden demos, I wonder if he's the same.

[Eddie Fox]

I don’t know about Argentina but when they came to Brazil they were referred as Dire Straits with a new lineup. It was all over the press. They even gave TV interviews introducing Marco as ‘the new DS singer’. I’m sure there are still lots of people out there who truly believe that have been to a Dire Straits concert.

[quizzaciously]

I don’t know about Argentina but when they came to Brazil they were referred as Dire Straits with a new lineup. It was all over the press. They even gave TV interviews introducing Marco as ‘the new DS singer’. I’m sure there are still lots of people out there who truly believe that have been to a Dire Straits concert.

YES. And that happens a lot specifically in non-English speaking countries and especially second and third world countries... Like their promoters just exploit people's ignorance, and I often heard from Russian people that new DS formation is useless without MK and things like that. Of course, things like that would piss off anyone and it's not a surprise to me that legal actions have been introduced to settle this situation.

[Knopflerfan]

I don’t know about Argentina but when they came to Brazil they were referred as Dire Straits with a new lineup. It was all over the press. They even gave TV interviews introducing Marco as ‘the new DS singer’. I’m sure there are still lots of people out there who truly believe that have been to a Dire Straits concert.