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Re: Early Bird?
« Reply #90 on: September 04, 2009, 01:16:21 PM »
This 30 sec snippet has been chosen to be my ring tune of this year.   8)

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Re: Early Bird?
« Reply #91 on: September 05, 2009, 09:12:53 AM »


The counterpart is that each time we buy blank media (tape, cdr, dvd-r, hard disk, memory flash, cell phones...) we pay a tax that goes to artists and producers and is meant as a compensation for the loss of sale.


The reason for this is not to make copying legal, but to compensate the artists potential loss because it increases the risk of illegal copying.

Copying for personal/private use is legal. What varies around the world, is the interpretation of the term "personal/private use". But I don't think it's relevant how close the friendship is.

Yes, I know the droit d'auteur.

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Re: Early Bird?
« Reply #92 on: September 06, 2009, 01:13:42 AM »


The counterpart is that each time we buy blank media (tape, cdr, dvd-r, hard disk, memory flash, cell phones...) we pay a tax that goes to artists and producers and is meant as a compensation for the loss of sale.


The reason for this is not to make copying legal, but to compensate the artists potential loss because it increases the risk of illegal copying.



On that point I can say you that you are wrong : there is no compensation for illegal copying only for legal copying.

French highest juridiction had invalidated the "Comission d'Alby" decision for this exact reason. "Comission d'Alby" is in charge of determinate the tax value and  they had incorporated in their calcul the piracy losses factor. But the Conseil Constitutionnel said that this calcul was totally illegal and that should be based only on legal copying and therefore should not count in illegal downloading.


Copying for personal/private use is legal. What varies around the world, is the interpretation of the term "personal/private use". But I don't think it's relevant how close the friendship is.

Yes, I know the droit d'auteur.

 :)


This is exactly what was surprising in the link I posted because of the interpretation of the written law by the "Cours d'Appel" :

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Re: Early Bird?
« Reply #93 on: September 08, 2009, 12:22:23 AM »
According to copyright law most places (but clearly not in France anymore), legal copying will not result in loss in the artist income (theoretically). An artist can never expect to sell more than one example of a piece of art to each customer for his own use. So if you buy a record, it would be no problem for the artist if you made ten or twenty copies for your own use, since private copying would never result in a loss that needs to be compensated. On the other hand: If you give away a home made copy as a present to a friend, the artist looses a potential buyer. That's his potential loss. Since blank tapes, CD-R's etc make it possible to distribute the music outside the houshold, it could result in a loss for the artist. Hence the tax.

In short: legal copying should not result in loss, therefore no comensation needed. Blanks increas the risk of illegal copying, therefor a need for comensation. Hence the need for tax on the blanks.

Anyway, I'm learning a lot here. Thanks, ds1984!

I guess it's still like this most places, but strangely enough IMO, not in France.

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Re: Early Bird?
« Reply #94 on: September 11, 2009, 08:52:42 AM »
Early bird can be sold apart from the cd for
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Re: Early Bird?
« Reply #95 on: September 11, 2009, 09:35:45 AM »
Just bought Early Bird from I Tunes. :)


Great Song ;)

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Re: Early Bird?
« Reply #96 on: September 11, 2009, 10:38:47 AM »
Brilliant news. Will buy it tonight (aasuming I can buy it in Britain).
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Re: Early Bird?
« Reply #97 on: September 11, 2009, 10:52:09 AM »
I agree - its a worthy addition (which should IMHO) have been on the album in the first place!! >:(
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Re: Early Bird?
« Reply #98 on: September 11, 2009, 11:10:26 AM »
Just like the song that you can hear on the DvD were Mark and Band Members are recording backing vocals.

I think the song is called Time In The Sun. I did asked Guy about it.
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Re: Early Bird?
« Reply #99 on: September 11, 2009, 11:17:20 AM »
Just bought Early Bird from I Tunes. :)


Great Song ;)

Can you tell me how to buy it, please ? I've got UK iTunes but I hear you have to go onto another country's store. I can't work out how to do that...

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Re: Early Bird?
« Reply #100 on: September 11, 2009, 11:19:24 AM »
Well, I bought in in Germany as well.
Great tune, 5:36 long, interesting! Should have been on the record, very original music:
First lines of the lyrics:


Got no books in my house
got no time for those
no room in my closets
closets full of clothes
garage full of wheels, babe
boathouse full of boat
the life style I deal, babe
that

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Re: Early Bird?
« Reply #101 on: September 11, 2009, 12:25:22 PM »
Just bought Early Bird from I Tunes. :)


Great Song ;)

Can you tell me how to buy it, please ? I've got UK iTunes but I hear you have to go onto another country's store. I can't work out how to do that...

Sadly this is beyond impossible.

if you have a UK itunes account you CAN go to the itunes store of another country - to do this scroll right down to the bottom of the itunes screen and there is an option to change store - you can then select the country store you would like...

as for buying stuff from another itunes country store - you CANT do it - its something to do with stupid music companies and bank details of the country your in - its annoyed me for ages - but it cant be done.....
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Re: Early Bird?
« Reply #102 on: September 11, 2009, 12:30:17 PM »
So is Early Bird on iTunes UK or not?
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Re: Early Bird?
« Reply #103 on: September 11, 2009, 12:53:41 PM »
Just found this site:

http://german.about.com/library/blmusik_itunes1.htm

Not tried it myself yet and it is American based so it may not work, but we can but try.  Clutching at straws at the minute! :-\
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Re: Early Bird?
« Reply #104 on: September 11, 2009, 01:01:31 PM »
What a farce. This is what happens when you start farting about with different versions in different countries.

 

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