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Re: Here are the exacts venues for On the Night Record
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2019, 03:37:20 PM »
You can easily see from the On the Night DVD
that Calling Elvis is a mix of Stadium (Rotterdam) and Roman Arena (Nimes)
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Re: Here are the exacts venues for On the Night Record
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2019, 03:46:04 PM »
MK reached his best as guitar player that tour, but the performances were pretty much the same concert after concert...

One could argue that that is a contradiction. 


Not really... You can play absolutely fantastic night by night, but play exactly the same. I'm not talking about creativity, I'm talking about accuracy in his guitar playing. He was absolutely amazing technically, playing perfectly, but just that.

I knew what you meant but I would argue that creativity is a part of it.  There is always a point in a tour where a peak is reached after the cobwebs being dusted off and prior to autopilot being switched on.  ;)

I think Mark's solos on this tour wasn't identical, they had a "base" and some room for improvisation which seems OK... Better than complete free-for-all. After all, improvisation is a set of learned phrases anyway, nobody never truly "improvise" something, especially MK.

He always has pretty strict patterns in his solos, in contrary with, say, jazz musicians who can play over 1 chord for two hours and never repeat themselves by playing 24 modes of that scale and 666 inversions of that chord.

I remember when I realised that Eagles repeat their solos note-for-note on live shows and thinking — but that's lazy! And then I thought "Ah, but if the solo is legendary, you wrote It and people like it, why not to repeat it?".

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Re: Here are the exacts venues for On the Night Record
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2019, 04:00:33 PM »
MK reached his best as guitar player that tour, but the performances were pretty much the same concert after concert...

One could argue that that is a contradiction. 


Not really... You can play absolutely fantastic night by night, but play exactly the same. I'm not talking about creativity, I'm talking about accuracy in his guitar playing. He was absolutely amazing technically, playing perfectly, but just that.

I knew what you meant but I would argue that creativity is a part of it.  There is always a point in a tour where a peak is reached after the cobwebs being dusted off and prior to autopilot being switched on.  ;)

I think Mark's solos on this tour wasn't identical, they had a "base" and some room for improvisation which seems OK... Better than complete free-for-all. After all, improvisation is a set of learned phrases anyway, nobody never truly "improvise" something, especially MK.

He always has pretty strict patterns in his solos, in contrary with, say, jazz musicians who can play over 1 chord for two hours and never repeat themselves by playing 24 modes of that scale and 666 inversions of that chord.

I remember when I realised that Eagles repeat their solos note-for-note on live shows and thinking — but that's lazy! And then I thought "Ah, but if the solo is legendary, you wrote It and people like it, why not to repeat it?".

Playing 24 modes of a scale :lol :lol :lol

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Re: Here are the exacts venues for On the Night Record
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2019, 03:39:37 AM »
You can easily see from the On the Night DVD
that Calling Elvis is a mix of Stadium (Rotterdam) and Roman Arena (Nimes)

Strongly agree, this is clear!
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Re: Here are the exacts venues for On the Night Record
« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2019, 04:08:06 AM »
Let's go down to the waterline!

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Re: Here are the exacts venues for On the Night Record
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2019, 08:33:46 AM »
You can easily see from the On the Night DVD
that Calling Elvis is a mix of Stadium (Rotterdam) and Roman Arena (Nimes)

In which part are mixed? Haven't see it for a while...
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Re: Here are the exacts venues for On the Night Record
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2019, 12:28:20 PM »
Take it that's the Feyenoord Football stadium?  They've got a game on this evening.

Hoping for a home win?

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Re: Here are the exacts venues for On the Night Record
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2019, 12:30:12 PM »
Take it that's the Feyenoord Football stadium?  They've got a game on this evening.

Hoping for a home win?

Not exactly. 
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Re: Here are the exacts venues for On the Night Record
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2019, 12:58:30 PM »
Take it that's the Feyenoord Football stadium?  They've got a game on this evening.

Hoping for a home win?

Not exactly.

Things are looking up for scottish football in europe for a change! (except killie). I'm Rangers but good to see the overall coefficient doing well.

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Re: Here are the exacts venues for On the Night Record
« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2019, 01:36:32 PM »
Take it that's the Feyenoord Football stadium?  They've got a game on this evening.

Hoping for a home win?

Not exactly.

Things are looking up for scottish football in europe for a change! (except killie). I'm Rangers but good to see the overall coefficient doing well.
wonder how Rangers favourite Dick Advocaat will do against them tonight...
any Knopfler, Floyd or Dylan will do....

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Re: Here are the exacts venues for On the Night Record
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2019, 01:59:51 PM »
Take it that's the Feyenoord Football stadium?  They've got a game on this evening.

Hoping for a home win?

Not exactly.

Things are looking up for scottish football in europe for a change! (except killie). I'm Rangers but good to see the overall coefficient doing well.
wonder how Rangers favourite Dick Advocaat will do against them tonight...

Hopefully not as well as the last time out!

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Re: Here are the exacts venues for On the Night Record
« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2019, 03:54:07 PM »
You can easily see from the On the Night DVD
that Calling Elvis is a mix of Stadium (Rotterdam) and Roman Arena (Nimes)
It´s possible that were mixed the video from two venues, but i think that the audio of each song come from one source. Example: i dont think that the audio of Calling elvis was a mix of two performances.

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Re: Here are the exacts venues for On the Night Record
« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2019, 05:31:54 PM »
You can easily see from the On the Night DVD
that Calling Elvis is a mix of Stadium (Rotterdam) and Roman Arena (Nimes)

In which part are mixed? Haven't see it for a while...

during the long guitar solo after the end of the lyrics there's a lot of changes between rotterdam and nimes
back and forth which can be easily seen because rotterdam is day and nimes is night and also different MK's hair
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Re: Here are the exacts venues for On the Night Record
« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2019, 05:35:34 PM »
You can easily see from the On the Night DVD
that Calling Elvis is a mix of Stadium (Rotterdam) and Roman Arena (Nimes)
It´s possible that were mixed the video from two venues, but i think that the audio of each song come from one source. Example: i dont think that the audio of Calling elvis was a mix of two performances.

I never listened to those audience recordings but the video of Calling Elvis is 100% surely mixed between rotterdam
and nimes and what MK plays (video) is exactly what you hear so I think they mixed also the audio.

if you listened to them all and can't find the right one this confirms they mixed different shows.
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