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Why the Dobro on R&J ?
« on: May 29, 2019, 10:58:39 PM »
Curious, what do you think the reason behind this change in the current tour? For me the Dobro sound is just not as good as the National Steel.

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Re: Why the Dobro on R&J ?
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2019, 11:34:35 PM »
Weight to help strain on his back possibly.  He uses his heavier guitars (National) when seated where he can rest them on his lap.
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Re: Why the Dobro on R&J ?
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2019, 11:46:04 PM »
The action on the national was always quite harsh as well....

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Re: Why the Dobro on R&J ?
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2019, 12:07:38 AM »
Weight to help strain on his back possibly.  He uses his heavier guitars (National) when seated where he can rest them on his lap.

I was thinking the same, these national style-O’s are pretty heavy, especially when you have back problems... Would that also be the reason to skip Telegraph Road as well? :think. He could play it again like before, then he only has to play it for 30 seconds and then switch to the Pensa ;D. But unfortunately not going to happen ofcourse ;)
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Re: Why the Dobro on R&J ?
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2019, 12:11:41 AM »
Weight to help strain on his back possibly.  He uses his heavier guitars (National) when seated where he can rest them on his lap.

I was thinking the same, these national style-O’s are pretty heavy, especially when you have back problems... Would that also be the reason to skip Telegraph Road as well? :think. He could play it again like before, then he only has to play it for 30 seconds and then switch to the Pensa ;D. But unfortunately not going to happen ofcourse ;)

Guys, from memory the LP will be slightly heavier than the national.
« Last Edit: May 30, 2019, 12:19:52 AM by 2manyguitars »

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Re: Why the Dobro on R&J ?
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2019, 12:59:58 AM »
Weight to help strain on his back possibly.  He uses his heavier guitars (National) when seated where he can rest them on his lap.

I was thinking the same, these national style-O’s are pretty heavy, especially when you have back problems... Would that also be the reason to skip Telegraph Road as well? :think. He could play it again like before, then he only has to play it for 30 seconds and then switch to the Pensa ;D. But unfortunately not going to happen ofcourse ;)

Guys, from memory the LP will be slightly heavier than the national.

That I don’t know, could for sure be...I played the national ones and was suprised about the weight a little bit. But the LP I don’t know. So if that is the case, that theory dies.... But I have to say, I still love the National much better on R&J then the dobro. Both are nice, but the National has much more a clearer sound and beautiful tone :)
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Re: Why the Dobro on R&J ?
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2019, 08:07:16 AM »
He plays quite a lot of songs standing with the Gibson les Paul which is very very heavy...

I think he told at the bbc piano room showcase that the national was deteriorated...
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Re: Why the Dobro on R&J ?
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2019, 08:43:03 AM »
Yes, the LP is a heavy guitar. I would guess it is around the same weight as the national so I don‘t think it is because of the weight, but who knows

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Re: Why the Dobro on R&J ?
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2019, 10:45:55 AM »
It's not about the weight. MK has and uses more heavy guitars than the National.

According internet, the most heaviest National, weights 9 Lbs. Actually the National Style O weights 8. The Gibson Les Paul guitars weights between 9 and 12 Lbs.

MK plays most of the songs standing and with Les Paul guitars so, no, the weight is not the reason MK is not playing his National Style O anymore. I insist that he said in the BBC Piano room show that it has deteriorated and he doesn't wants to use them live anymore to avoid more harm.

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Re: Why the Dobro on R&J ?
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2019, 11:27:57 AM »
You've got to remember what a beast the national o is. No truss rod, big flat neck with no radius. I had hold of the replica model they released a few years back and even that with its modern construction techniques  was tough to play, so you can imagine the vice like left hand strength required to play the original.  Purely a matter of comfort I suspect.

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Re: Why the Dobro on R&J ?
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2019, 12:00:10 PM »
You've got to remember what a beast the national o is. No truss rod, big flat neck with no radius. I had hold of the replica model they released a few years back and even that with its modern construction techniques  was tough to play, so you can imagine the vice like left hand strength required to play the original.  Purely a matter of comfort I suspect.

I think this is the reason. They are quite tough to play. It is easy to play a partly muted note insead of ringing one. At least as an amateur :D

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Re: Why the Dobro on R&J ?
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2019, 12:10:01 PM »
I think it's just a matter of sonic quality. Mark simply prefers the sound of it for Romeo over the National.

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Re: Why the Dobro on R&J ?
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2019, 12:21:41 PM »
You've got to remember what a beast the national o is. No truss rod, big flat neck with no radius. I had hold of the replica model they released a few years back and even that with its modern construction techniques  was tough to play, so you can imagine the vice like left hand strength required to play the original.  Purely a matter of comfort I suspect.


I think this is the reason. They are quite tough to play. It is easy to play a partly muted note insead of ringing one. At least as an amateur :D

Yes, he only needed a lot of tours with Dire Straits and a lot of solo tours to notice it wasn't comfort to play it.


I think it's just a matter of sonic quality. Mark simply prefers the sound of it for Romeo over the National.

Yes, it only took a lot of Dire Straits tours and a lot of solo tours to notice that
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Re: Why the Dobro on R&J ?
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2019, 12:22:54 PM »
So do you believe that it is more about the condition of the instrument?

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Re: Why the Dobro on R&J ?
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2019, 12:28:51 PM »
He plays quite a lot of songs standing with the Gibson les Paul which is very very heavy...

I think he told at the bbc piano room showcase that the national was deteriorated...

According to someone on Facebook it has very recently returned from restoration.  Didn't he have a replica made some years back or did I imagine that?
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