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Re: (06) Good on you Son
« Reply #390 on: September 22, 2018, 06:15:51 PM »
What is the "note out of time" that everyone is talking about? Everything sounds perfectly in time to me.
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Re: (06) Good on you Son
« Reply #391 on: September 22, 2018, 06:20:11 PM »
What is the "note out of time" that everyone is talking about? Everything sounds perfectly in time to me.

At around 34s into the song just before the band kicks in.
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Re: (06) Good on you Son
« Reply #392 on: September 22, 2018, 06:27:59 PM »
What is the "note out of time" that everyone is talking about? Everything sounds perfectly in time to me.

At around 34s into the song just before the band kicks in.

Hmm, if you mean that D# which is slightly delayed with respect to how he does it the first time, that's definitely on purpose (and I love it).
If instead it is one of those last 3 notes before the band... I'm not able to tell that they're out of time  ???
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Re: (06) Good on you Son
« Reply #393 on: September 22, 2018, 06:42:12 PM »
What is the "note out of time" that everyone is talking about? Everything sounds perfectly in time to me.

At around 34s into the song just before the band kicks in.

Hmm, if you mean that D# which is slightly delayed with respect to how he does it the first time, that's definitely on purpose (and I love it).
If instead it is one of those last 3 notes before the band... I'm not able to tell that they're out of time  ???

Yes to the former.  So you think it's on purpose.  I was pretty sure too because why not re-record?  However, it just sounds weird to me and I can't help thinking it would sound so much better if it was "in time."  Or better still, improvise a little the 2nd time around.
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Re: (06) Good on you Son
« Reply #394 on: September 22, 2018, 06:56:43 PM »
Yeah, it's quite a strange sound and not a first time you can hear these strange things in the latest two albums, which I'm sure Guy and Mark regard as "the best little imperfections they ever made". But it's still imperfections and not that I would expect from a man who constantly says he's not a perfectionist while being one.

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Re: (06) Good on you Son
« Reply #395 on: September 22, 2018, 07:04:49 PM »
100% on purpose, imperfection has nothing to do with it
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Re: (06) Good on you Son
« Reply #396 on: September 22, 2018, 07:06:54 PM »
We will probably never know, but, I mean, come on:

 1) the "out of time" note lands perfectly on time in its own beat
 2) it's a dead simple lick that you could play even if you didn't ever touch a guitar in your lifetime
 3) it is basically the textbook definition of syncopation
 4) it sounds great

I mean, come on. He likes pipes, but he's still Mark.
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Re: (06) Good on you Son
« Reply #397 on: September 22, 2018, 07:18:21 PM »
We will probably never know, but, I mean, come on:

 1) the "out of time" note lands perfectly on time in its own beat
 2) it's a dead simple lick that you could play even if you didn't ever touch a guitar in your lifetime
 3) it is basically the textbook definition of syncopation
 4) it sounds great

I mean, come on. He likes pipes, but he's still Mark.

I think it's because of the "first take" situation, every musician of every level brags about first take recording, as if the listener cares how many times you've played the song before finally recording it. I'm pretty sure these things comes not on purpose, but purely because first take is better than trying to re-record something and just to leave thing "as is".

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Re: (06) Good on you Son
« Reply #398 on: September 22, 2018, 07:25:36 PM »
We will probably never know, but, I mean, come on:

 1) the "out of time" note lands perfectly on time in its own beat
 2) it's a dead simple lick that you could play even if you didn't ever touch a guitar in your lifetime
 3) it is basically the textbook definition of syncopation
 4) it sounds great

I mean, come on. He likes pipes, but he's still Mark.

I think it's because of the "first take" situation, every musician of every level brags about first take recording, as if the listener cares how many times you've played the song before finally recording it. I'm pretty sure these things comes not on purpose, but purely because first take is better than trying to re-record something and just to leave thing "as is".

Agree, but remember, Mark likes first takes, I remember reading somewhere a long time ago that Calling Elvis, Iron hand and I’m sure many other songs were recorded live and the first take was the one on the album.
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Re: (06) Good on you Son
« Reply #399 on: September 22, 2018, 08:27:03 PM »
What about a third song about the same person? Good on you Son(ny) ;)
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Re: (06) Good on you Son
« Reply #400 on: September 22, 2018, 08:30:53 PM »
What about a third song about the same person? Good on you Son(ny) ;)

Man, looks like Mark were a boxer in the past life, so many songs about boxers. What is all about, anyway? Two people bashing each other in the head?

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Re: (06) Good on you Son
« Reply #401 on: September 22, 2018, 08:44:36 PM »
What about a third song about the same person? Good on you Son(ny) ;)

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Re: (06) Good on you Son
« Reply #402 on: September 22, 2018, 10:53:17 PM »
I can’t prove it, but I don’t think the song is about a boxer.

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Re: (06) Good on you Son
« Reply #404 on: September 24, 2018, 11:06:26 AM »
That's at the same time the trailer for the Henrik Hansen MK feature film!
Thank you, wonderful!
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