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Author Topic: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)  (Read 111501 times)

OfflineJules

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Re: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)
« Reply #105 on: December 22, 2017, 11:31:34 AM »
For me it's clearly a job. All of them are paid by Marco Caviglia to play with him. Actually, Marco has been "replacing" the members of his Italian tribute band by DS ex members, that probably sell better in terms of tickets.

Why some DS ex members accept to play with it? All of them professional musicians who has to earn their money, they are not rich as MK or JI.
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Re: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)
« Reply #106 on: December 22, 2017, 06:02:39 PM »
Watched a few minutes and had to turn off.

Just embarrassing.

They are supposedly all about their "original" music and then all they go on about is DS and play "their" song SoS, a record that none of them played on?!

They should be ashamed. They really should.

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Re: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)
« Reply #107 on: December 22, 2017, 06:33:20 PM »
I have listened to the songs on this album quite a few times now and some of them are quite nice, but what I did notice was that just about all of them have parts that are reminiscent of DS songs.   It is as if AC has an obvious agenda to show that HE was the genius behind the arrangements and melodies, not MK, but since Mark has been solo and has written so many wonderful songs, thankfully, AC can no longer take credit for those.

Yes, as I have said, some of the songs sound OK, but I'm afraid most of them are ruined by the voice of Marco and I couldn't listen to them for long - the lyrics are not up to MK standard either!  Mark doesn't have the greatest singing voice, but it is a beautiful voice to me - warm, friendly and comforting and is the perfect complement to his unique guitar.

I agree about Mark's voice.  His voice and guitar IS the DS sound - not AC.

And what does he look like with those sunglasses on indoors at his age.  Does he think his future's that bright, or is it because you can always tell if someone's telling the truth by looking into their eyes...  Either way it's impolite.
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Re: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)
« Reply #108 on: December 22, 2017, 09:36:48 PM »
DMG, I never said AC was the DS sound. It's crystal clear that sound was MK voice and guitar. What I said is that AC musically added a lot to the DS sound since 1981 that wasn't there before him and it's not there after him. He has a lot to do with LOG atmospheric sound, the magic of Alchemy, with arrangements in BiA and OES records and tours. I'm not telling that it DS sounded like that because AC, but that AC contributed a lot to that DS sound.

What AC did with DS there is nobody doing it with MK in his solo career, and I miss it. AND it's not only because AC is not there but because MK doesn't want to sound like DS anymore. AC was very creative when in DS but there are many musicians that are creative and can add that magic... But it's not what Mk wants, he doesn't want creative musicians adding magic, he wants session musicians to do what he wants, nothing else.

And that's not bad, but I miss some of the greatness of that DS sound... A lot.
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Re: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)
« Reply #109 on: December 22, 2017, 09:51:53 PM »
DMG, I never said AC was the DS sound.

I realise that.  It's AC who appears to think this!   :)

I think a part of the "problem" is that in going to Nashville to get the 96ers he may have found some great musicians but he also got a Nashville experience in the ranks.  Ed didn't call them The Dullards for nothing.  That is what he thought they brought to his music and I agree.  Every DS song since is less powerful, less energetic and slower.

Then when Mark added the Celtic influence to his music and brought in the Mc's there was another different influence in the ranks.  These guys are great on Privateering and the like but are completely lost on TR etc.  Too many contrasting influences, too many players and not a band.
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Re: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)
« Reply #110 on: December 22, 2017, 09:57:12 PM »
DMG, I never said AC was the DS sound.

I realise that.  It's AC who appears to think this!   :)

I didn't understood a word from that video so I don't know what he says, anyway... Who I like is the AC musician, not the person, and what I value is his "musicianship" in DS, that is something that can't be denied.
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Re: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)
« Reply #111 on: December 22, 2017, 10:09:18 PM »
Mark Knopfler is more acoustic. I remember the phrase year 2000 (Sailing To Philadelphia) that rock music is only a margin of its inspiration. Everything is confirmed. Mark planned it all :)
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Re: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)
« Reply #112 on: December 22, 2017, 11:34:42 PM »

I think a part of the "problem" is that in going to Nashville to get the 96ers he may have found some great musicians but he also got a Nashville experience in the ranks.  Ed didn't call them The Dullards for nothing.  That is what he thought they brought to his music and I agree.  Every DS song since is less powerful, less energetic and slower.


Well I think back on Golden Heart and STP tours they still had lots of energy. Chad Cromwell was really rocking the drums when needed (I still prefer him over any other drummer) and if you check out the early Shangri-la tour with Chad on drums it's still pretty powerful stuff. With Danny things just went boring, it seemed that his groove was always a bit behind and the songs didn't seem to go anywhere. Now with Ianto, I think he is trying to get some of the songs going and seems like he wants to drive them to a bit more uptempo feel. But overall I think MK calls the shots and steers the ship, it's not so much about the musicians involved.

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Re: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)
« Reply #113 on: December 23, 2017, 03:00:20 PM »
This is ridiculous to say the least, I mean Alan wanting to get more recognition. He got to play in one of the biggest bands in the world, he played great songs with great musicians and got paid for this. Millions of musicians would play for free in a band like this and many would actually pay big money to do so, and here's a guy who did all this for free, recorded timeless classics and got paid for this complaining about getting not enough share. I want to punch him in the face! :smack

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Re: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)
« Reply #114 on: December 23, 2017, 03:09:30 PM »
Do you want a gun?

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Re: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)
« Reply #115 on: December 23, 2017, 04:04:24 PM »
This is ridiculous to say the least, I mean Alan wanting to get more recognition. He got to play in one of the biggest bands in the world, he played great songs with great musicians and got paid for this. Millions of musicians would play for free in a band like this and many would actually pay big money to do so, and here's a guy who did all this for free, recorded timeless classics and got paid for this complaining about getting not enough share. I want to punch him in the face! :smack

I agree and the main issue is also complaining AFTER so many years, that's nonsense, if you want credit for cowriting Telegraph Road you raise the complaint with MK immediately, not after some albums and tours and after 30-35 years since the original song
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Re: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)
« Reply #116 on: December 23, 2017, 04:54:02 PM »
Two guns then...

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Re: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)
« Reply #117 on: December 23, 2017, 05:00:17 PM »
Two guns then...

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Actually, Alan Clark can play with Mark again. If AC would bring a gun with him ;D

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Re: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)
« Reply #118 on: December 23, 2017, 06:19:01 PM »
Two guns then...

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Re: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)
« Reply #119 on: December 23, 2017, 06:20:02 PM »
You paid, ghost.
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