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Pick and tremolo
« on: April 23, 2016, 10:38:31 PM »
There may be few times when Mark used a pick inste ad  of his 3 fingers and the tremolo
I now only can remember in "the man is too strong" and  the beginning of "So far" after DS band
I have never seen Mark using the tremolo at DS

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Re: Pick and tremolo
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2016, 12:07:00 AM »
I wrote an article about this subject on Ingo's blog :

http://www.mk-guitar.com/2014/09/30/songs-that-mark-knopfler-plays-with-a-pick/

Mark used a pick on many DS songs : the man's too strong, expresso love, twisting by the pool, many rhythm parts...

for DS songs, he used the tremolo bar on :

- private investigations studio version see at the end of the clip :
 


- solid rock and wild world on the steinberger in 85-86 :
 

and of course on many solo songs for his Marvin sound (shangri-la, everybody pays, you don't know you're born, seattle, the fizzy and the still, true love, etc...)


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Re: Pick and tremolo
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2016, 01:06:12 AM »
I have just read what you wrote in Ingo`s blog
Very nice info!
Detailed
I wonder why Mark switched from vibrato to tremolo in certain parts



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Re: Pick and tremolo
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2016, 12:48:30 PM »
He used it on the Steinberger on One World I think too (sounds like it) and the 2nd solo on MFN, also at the very end.
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Re: Pick and tremolo
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2016, 01:53:49 PM »
He used it on the Steinberger on One World I think too (sounds like it) and the 2nd solo on MFN, also at the very end.

One world is fingers. (There is also a video clip available with the live version from the 1985 US tour to prove...)
Mfn also.

Playing with a pick is nothing new for Mark by the way, see this blog post that discusses using a pick on stage for several songs in 1979:
http://www.mk-guitar.com/2013/08/29/mark-knopfler-playing-with-a-pick-in-1979/

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Re: Pick and tremolo
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2016, 02:22:02 PM »
He used it on the Steinberger on One World I think too (sounds like it) and the 2nd solo on MFN, also at the very end.

One world is fingers. (There is also a video clip available with the live version from the 1985 US tour to prove...)
Mfn also.

Playing with a pick is nothing new for Mark by the way, see this blog post that discusses using a pick on stage for several songs in 1979:
http://www.mk-guitar.com/2013/08/29/mark-knopfler-playing-with-a-pick-in-1979/

You can see him use the tremolo at the 5:00 mark on the Princes' Trust concert '86:

 
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Re: Pick and tremolo
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2016, 05:46:55 PM »
He used it on the Steinberger on One World I think too (sounds like it) and the 2nd solo on MFN, also at the very end.

One world is fingers. (There is also a video clip available with the live version from the 1985 US tour to prove...)
Mfn also.

Playing with a pick is nothing new for Mark by the way, see this blog post that discusses using a pick on stage for several songs in 1979:
http://www.mk-guitar.com/2013/08/29/mark-knopfler-playing-with-a-pick-in-1979/

Bernadette= fingers

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Re: Pick and tremolo
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2016, 08:06:32 AM »
The fizzy and the still

I already said it in my post

the complete list of songs played with pick is here :

http://www.mk-guitar.com/2014/09/30/songs-that-mark-knopfler-plays-with-a-pick/

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Re: Pick and tremolo
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2016, 08:10:40 AM »
Bernadette= fingers

not 100% sure

we discussed this with Ingo :

I’d say that the riff sounds pick, but the solo sounds fingers especially the rake at 1:44, but well, it could also sound pick

http://www.mk-guitar.com/2013/08/29/mark-knopfler-playing-with-a-pick-in-1979/#comments


btw, has someone ever noticed that the Bernadette riff is very similar to Clash's london clalling ?

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Re: Pick and tremolo
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2016, 08:17:01 AM »
- private investigations studio version see at the end of the clip :
 

to my knowledge, it's the only time we can see the red schecter strat with a tremolo arm
the strange thing is that it seems to be a Fender one (the one from his 61 strat ?) with a plastic white ending, while shecter ones didn't have this plastic white ending I think  :think

another thing I alwasy wondered : does Hal play on this song ?
I can't hear a specific guitar part that could sounds him, but he is figuring in the clip... as it only for the band image ? :think
http://www.mk-guitar.com/gear-on-all-songs-for-all-albums-wiki/gear-on-album-love-over-gold/

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Re: Pick and tremolo
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2016, 07:46:24 PM »
to my knowledge, it's the only time we can see the red schecter strat with a tremolo arm
the strange thing is that it seems to be a Fender one (the one from his 61 strat ?) with a plastic white ending, while shecter ones didn't have this plastic white ending I think  :think

You are right. The original was a stainless steel arm with a  chromed brass tip.
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Re: Pick and tremolo
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2016, 03:30:47 PM »
I have never seen Mark using the tremolo at DS

hey, we talked about MFN, solid rock and one world (all 3 on the steinberger) and private investigations on red the schecter strat but we forgot to mention the early days with the outro on News and the solo on eastbound train ! both on the strat of course

from 3:37
 

from 3:30. then he uses it so hard that he looses it at 3:41 !
 

and you can see him fixin it again at 0:10
 


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Re: Pick and tremolo
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2016, 03:37:50 PM »
Nice videos, yes, he used the tremolo there.
What might be the cause he gave it up?
He spent many years without the tremolo, only with the vibrato.
I have got a MK1 replica, it has got the tremolo bar. I have never seen Mark using it with the Pensa MK1

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Re: Pick and tremolo
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2016, 05:02:20 PM »
Tremolo, vibrato is quite confusing.

Vibrato is a change in pitch (as for a left hand bending) and this is what I assume to be the effect obtained with a steel arm.

Tremolo keep the pitch but it is a change in volume and I wonder how the steel arm could do that...

Fender does advertise it as "Tremolo Arms" but actually it is a vibrato isn't it?


 
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Re: Pick and tremolo
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2016, 05:18:47 PM »
Nice explanation, vibrato=change in pitch
tremo=change in volume

 

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