I think we close this talk about TK now.
I know what happened to BPD, and I know a lot more about TK. I agree with BPD, but let us keep the level high and why talk about these kind of things when we can talk about interesting issues.
By the way Fieneke, it's ok when someone gives his opinion, you don't have to agree, but he needed to put the words out of his heart. Let's say: Mugabe is a bandit, I don't care when the bastard will be killed. I think most people (or all) agree and let me say it. It's the same, but because it's a famous bandit and all people know what he is doing, no-one will give a negative reaction to me.
But we close the discussion, it's an MK-forum not a TK-forum.