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Re: New Score
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2014, 11:17:59 PM »
Mark composing on piano? You guys are funny ;D

Paul Simon wrote 'Bridge Over Troubled Water' completely on guitar, and nobody give the credits to Larry Knechtel, the arranger.

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yes it always difficult to determine the frontier between composition and arrangement, but I'd say that on Simon's song there is less "creativity" on the piano part that there is on telegraph road
Although bridge over troubled water is a beautiful song, it is far less complex that TR which requires more "arrangement" (or more "composition" ?) so to say

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Re: New Score
« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2014, 02:52:16 PM »
There are no extended instrumental parts or solos on Bridge. And string arrangements may be a difficult thing for inexperienced or not properly educated  musicians, but for a pop-rock song some times it is considered such a simplistic thing that usually they don't even demand an arranger credit, if money is good. And many big studios used to have such arrangers as part of the household services. Of course other times the composer gets a composition credit on the song, because his ideas infiltrate the composition (like Ron Gessin on Atom heart mother etc. )  And I can only imagine what would Marvin Gaye's What's going on  would have sounded like without the input of all these great musicians and arrangers. The first test - singles have the original orchestration that although they are away from the traditional Motown sound, are still a long way to go from the masterpieces versions that finally appeared on the finished album .




And these appeared commercially!
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Re: New Score
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2014, 04:36:42 PM »
And the conclusion is that MK is or is not recording a new score?
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Re: New Score
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2014, 05:35:09 PM »
And the conclusion is that MK is or is not recording a new score?

He is.

Dear Doc, according to this, it looks like MK is working on a new score with Evelyn Glennie, is that true? Anything you can tell about it?

Yes, the three of us will be starting work on a score soon.   

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Re: New Score
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2014, 07:48:53 PM »
Not sure if I am happy about this. I liked his statement that he did not want to waste any time with scores anymore as it was more important to him to write songs..

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Re: New Score
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2014, 08:55:40 PM »
Not sure if I am happy about this. I liked his statement that he did not want to waste any time with scores anymore as it was more important to him to write songs..

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The Tracker album is finished and the tour is announced. So he has to do something in between  ;)
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Re: New Score
« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2014, 10:08:57 PM »
Not sure if I am happy about this. I liked his statement that he did not want to waste any time with scores anymore as it was more important to him to write songs..

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The Tracker album is finished and the tour is announced. So he has to do something in between  ;)

How about some practice on his guitar?  Maybe Sultans...  Oops, not going there again!  :-X
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Re: New Score
« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2014, 04:04:49 PM »
Mark composing on piano? You guys are funny ;D

I recall MK playing keyboards on Local Hero soundtrack as well (some synth stuff I thought)... So... It's not impossible!

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Re: New Score
« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2014, 08:08:17 PM »
Mark composing on piano? You guys are funny ;D

I think it was at the time of the LoG album when he said the songs sound different because he composed more on the piano. I would however not see this as a proper 'change' from composing on the guitar to composing on the piano but rather that Mark probably tried different arrangements and ideas on the piano as well. The music was becoming more complex at that time and it is easier to try certain things on the piano. One of these might be different bass notes and such, I mean it was mainly the root note on the bass before, and with LoG the bass was often on the third or other intervals, e.g. on PI or LoG.

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Re: New Score
« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2014, 06:42:42 PM »
According to Jack Sonni, Mark had also big interest in the New York Jazz scene at that time, thus the more complexity on LOG compared to the more rock oriented MM album.
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Re: New Score
« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2014, 12:49:44 PM »
And the conclusion is that MK is or is not recording a new score?

He is.

Dear Doc, according to this, it looks like MK is working on a new score with Evelyn Glennie, is that true? Anything you can tell about it?

Yes, the three of us will be starting work on a score soon.   

This post, that was mine, is deleted from Guy
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Re: New Score
« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2014, 12:52:16 PM »
And the conclusion is that MK is or is not recording a new score?

He is.

Dear Doc, according to this, it looks like MK is working on a new score with Evelyn Glennie, is that true? Anything you can tell about it?

Yes, the three of us will be starting work on a score soon.   

This post, that was mine, is deleted from Guy
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Re: New Score
« Reply #27 on: October 30, 2014, 01:40:07 PM »
Sorry for offtopic, but superval99's post was 27777 post in this particular forum :)

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Re: New Score
« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2014, 04:20:41 PM »
Sorry for offtopic, but superval99's post was 27777 post in this particular forum :)

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Re: New Score
« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2014, 09:29:50 PM »

Dear friends, I have been reading all the messages and it is not all clear to me! So let me ask a stupid question!

What does "score"  mean? There are some different meanings in my dictionary, but I don't know which the right one is!
 
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