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Author Topic: Album Title: 'Tracker' : Release: Begin 2015  (Read 327086 times)

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Re: Album Title: 'Tracker' : Release: Begin 2015
« Reply #135 on: October 12, 2014, 07:46:15 PM »
Surely MK was on the OES cover?

Well, his boots were!  :lol
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Re: Album Title: 'Tracker' : Release: Begin 2015
« Reply #136 on: October 14, 2014, 03:01:25 PM »
The OES cover always reminded me of a Robert Frank photo from the Americans  (    see at 37 sec) although it is quite different!


And many expensive shows -  artists have stopped coming to Greece for a live date. Dylan came twice, but there were many unsold tickets, Leonard Cohen as well. Roger Waters played in an 3/4 empty stadium, in 2013.(To answer to an older question, that for some reason I missed!) The tickets are cheap for Europeans, but pretty expensive for the Greek salary that has plummeted to 460 Euros to an average of 680.
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Re: Album Title: 'Tracker' : Release: Begin 2015
« Reply #137 on: October 14, 2014, 03:02:59 PM »
Hey Nababo, how is your baby? And your new life as a father? Hope you are fine good buddy!  :wave
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Re: Album Title: 'Tracker' : Release: Begin 2015
« Reply #138 on: October 14, 2014, 06:24:48 PM »
Hey Nababo, how is your baby? And your new life as a father? Hope you are fine good buddy!  :wave

Hey, greek man, you're so kind.  :D :D :D I''l answer in p.m, okie?
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Re: Album Title: 'Tracker' : Release: Begin 2015
« Reply #139 on: October 14, 2014, 08:22:13 PM »
OK! 

By the way, I think a cover art of an album used to be important when we had a physical release selling more than a digital one. And us discussing this, reveals that we are in fact from a different time!   ;D

By the way, I used to buy (cheap) records, just because I liked their sleeve artwork. Some will probably never be released in CD form, since they are not very good, but their artwork (from fantastic to peculiar and kitsch) should remain in history. Alas the main product included (the music) could not save them.

Tracker cover is not bad, but I feel that we haven't seen the final artwork. 
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Re: Album Title: 'Tracker' : Release: Begin 2015
« Reply #140 on: October 14, 2014, 08:25:04 PM »
Surely MK was on the OES cover?

Well, his boots were!  :lol

Not only his boots  ;)

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Re: Album Title: 'Tracker' : Release: Begin 2015
« Reply #141 on: October 14, 2014, 08:43:10 PM »
Forgot about that one.  That is a nice cover.
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Re: Album Title: 'Tracker' : Release: Begin 2015
« Reply #142 on: October 15, 2014, 12:00:22 AM »
Then you shoul add some 7"






















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Re: Album Title: 'Tracker' : Release: Begin 2015
« Reply #143 on: October 15, 2014, 12:15:38 AM »
Oh, the good old days of singles. MK, has not issued one for privateering and/or the Get lucky ones were only promos.
But in a sense, all singles from the 70ies on were in reality a promotional item (and cheap, barely covering the expenses) in order to convince you to buy the actual product which was the album.

And it is true that MK does NOT appear in any of the album (solo or DS)  front covers, except live at the BBC. 

But the singles were a taste for the newcomers and an extra gift for the fans. So the artwork control was not as strict as the albums'. You get to have several different covers, with all sorts of styles and aesthetics. And of course photos to thrill the fans, to make more intimate and to familiarize the newcomers.
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« Reply #144 on: October 15, 2014, 12:41:28 AM »
In the 70's, 80's and 90's the single market was a big one and made good incomes.

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Re: Album Title: 'Tracker' : Release: Begin 2015
« Reply #145 on: October 15, 2014, 12:51:11 AM »
In reality the singles were losing ground from the 70ies on. Yes, there were making money out of them , but they were cheaply made and cheaply looking. They were revived for the disco as 12'' to have bigger grooves and to contain more beats and bass, and remixes. But in reality the product was the LP. And money were made if you sold vast amounts. Musicians made their living (and still do) not from selling records, but from airplay, usage of their music, concerts and merchandise. Only the ones that sell like bread receive checks from their record companies.  The one hit wonders from the 60ies and 70ies solved their life problem, but it was not the same for the one hit wonders of the 80ies or 90ies. And it is not peculiar that singles started getting scarce as releases in the 00nds.
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Re: Album Title: 'Tracker' : Release: Begin 2015
« Reply #146 on: October 15, 2014, 10:17:04 AM »
And it is true that MK does NOT appear in any of the album (solo or DS)  front covers, except live at the BBC. 
and also except MFN, but ok it's not an album, it's a best of....

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Re: Album Title: 'Tracker' : Release: Begin 2015
« Reply #147 on: October 15, 2014, 10:20:51 AM »
in the early sixties it was the reverse : singles were the "main" product, while LPs were only a bunch of tunes put together mainly by the record company.
it changed in the mid sixties I guess, with Beatles (and other artists) who decided to make "albums"...

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Re: Album Title: 'Tracker' : Release: Begin 2015
« Reply #148 on: October 15, 2014, 10:13:49 PM »
in the early sixties it was the reverse : singles were the "main" product, while LPs were only a bunch of tunes put together mainly by the record company.
it changed in the mid sixties I guess, with Beatles (and other artists) who decided to make "albums"...

Albums became cheaper too buy for the youngster of the 60's than for those of the 50's. There is economy behind that, consumption society that gained  Europe. And the album market did not kill the market of single, they were two parallel market, each one with its customers. The dead format of the 60's, killed by album selling growth, was the EP.

In reality the singles were losing ground from the 70ies on. Yes, there were making money out of them , but they were cheaply made and cheaply looking. They were revived for the disco as 12'' to have bigger grooves and to contain more beats and bass, and remixes. But in reality the product was the LP. And money were made if you sold vast amounts. Musicians made their living (and still do) not from selling records, but from airplay, usage of their music, concerts and merchandise. Only the ones that sell like bread receive checks from their record companies.  The one hit wonders from the 60ies and 70ies solved their life problem, but it was not the same for the one hit wonders of the 80ies or 90ies. And it is not peculiar that singles started getting scarce as releases in the 00nds.

A lot more artist have lived from selling record than touring, as a whole record sales were much more profitable for artists (even if they perceived only a small part of the cake). Only the big names could heavily profit from touring but in those years a lot of tour could not have been settled if the record company had not put money in it to use them as commercial support for record sales. Now you are offered a record if you buy concert tix...

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Re: Album Title: 'Tracker' : Release: Begin 2015
« Reply #149 on: October 15, 2014, 10:27:23 PM »
DS1984 you are right that there was an economy factor, but the "artistic" aim changed also : trying to create whole pieces of art, "albums" composed by several pieces that fit together, while the 50ies and early 60ies were more based on "individual" songs so to say

 

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