chuck ainlay not on new record?

[Jules]

Bass sounds and compression are the complaints I always hear about Chuck's work.

[yontwocrows]

Answer to C is no, according to Guy.

Two skinny kids, right. But i thought always that Bonfire night would be a new song for this record? Was it recorded for another album? Have i missed something?

Two skinny kids is from Stp sessions, Bonfire night from Get Lucky sessions.

Thanks Jbaent, didn't know that.
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Just my 2 cents to the producer discussion: I always prefered the live versions even in Dire Straits days. So i don't know if it is really a recording matter. I like Guy being co-producer and i think it's not a good suggestion replacing him. He is the person who has the longest experience in collaborating with Mark on the whole planet. They are a good team, they have a good spirit and i don't think that a new producer can influence Mark that much you all seem to suppose. I can also understand that they are eager to experiment with all the equipement. They have at least the flow to keep on working. And i think Mark wants to have the control over the production and don't want to be dependent on another person. Guy has been supporting Mark for such a long time now, he has been playing such a centre role in all the producing questions and they do a good job (Privateering is a well produced record). Why don't you respect this?

[Tally]

Polished albums have always been MK's thing it seems to me, possibly with the exception of of Making Movies like someone mentioned. One reason many people never "got" DS was probably because they only heard studio versions of songs (which were great, but live was so much more "alive").

[dmg]

Mark always has a great loyalty to people in his band, well most of the time anyway.  This leads me to believe that he has chucked Chuck aside merely due to the style of song on the new record and not because he wants something fresh.  Chuck will be back for the next again one I'll bet.

[LoveExpresso]

Just my 2 cents to the producer discussion: I always prefered the live versions even in Dire Straits days. So i don't know if it is really a recording matter. I like Guy being co-producer and i think it's not a good suggestion replacing him. He is the person who has the longest experience in collaborating with Mark on the whole planet. They are a good team, they have a good spirit and i don't think that a new producer can influence Mark that much you all seem to suppose. I can also understand that they are eager to experiment with all the equipement. They have at least the flow to keep on working. And i think Mark wants to have the control over the production and don't want to be dependent on another person. Guy has been supporting Mark for such a long time now, he has been playing such a centre role in all the producing questions and they do a good job (Privateering is a well produced record). Why don't you respect this?

Hey, Yontwocrows, now we know it: You are Guy!!  (And The Visitor is TK..  )  just kidding..
I think wanting a change does not automatically mean "we" are not respecting Guy. Sometimes it brings some fresh air to change some things. Mark tends to do his changes only careful and slightly, mostly drummers  .. and you are right about the fact that Mark wants to have the control over the production and doesn't want to be dependent on another person.
My theory: Maybe the loong recording run last time was a little bit difficult to handle for the Americans. Chuck is maybe not able to stay at BG as long as Mark wishes him to be, same with Richard. Remember, when they recorded RPD or Shangri-La, it was clear that they were in those studios for a certain number of weeks. Now Mark has obviously this open approach, maybe he cannot book Richard and Chuck forever. Playing drum and bass parts might be easier to handle, so Glen comes over, plays his parts and goes back to the US.
So Mark kills two birds with one stone in letting Guy do  the producer's job, he is there anyway. Pretty pragmatic if you wish. Just a theory of course.

LE
 

[dustyvalentino]

Maybe a cost thing too, the records don't sell many copies these days, especially when they don't even get released in the world's biggest marketplace.

[Jules]

LE, remember that Chuck Ainlay was at BG around january or february for the ezdrummer presentation, and MK was already wirking at BG...

[yontwocrows]

Hey, Yontwocrows, now we know it: You are Guy!! 

Damn it! Was it really that obvious? 

Back to the speculations:

1.) Costs: Yes, i think they're trying to optimize it. (Mark plays Richard parts / Guy plays Jim parts and replaces Chuck / The other musicians involved, are in the studio as short as possible).
2.) Americans: LE, your theory is somehow convincing.

This leads me to believe that he has chucked Chuck aside merely due to the style of song on the new record and not because he wants something fresh.

- Yes, but what style do we aspect now(polished, clear sound, Celtic Folk blended with americana?)

[border_reiver]

I'm crossing fingers that MK's going for the "Transatlantic Sessions"-kind of sound. If so, maybe Ainlay isn't the perfect match? (Wildly speculating of course)

[LoveExpresso]

A mix of all, as usual. Mark never does one-style-albums - everyone who maybe expected him to do a proper "blues album" has to live with Privateering. Not sure why he does it.. every aspect of his musical career is always incorporated - the roots stuff, the tricky, soundtrack-like stuff, the "funny songs", the one rocker song, the war song theme, the song with strings in it and so on. Listening to a new MK album for the first time rarely gives surprises, but always "ah, now that's the xy song variation"...  The last time I was really surprised was when I heard the heavy loud slide guitar part on Gator Blood!

So - high class musical variation with great sound, great lyrics and the unmistakable MK touch - yes, a lot! Surprises - not too much I'm afraid..

 

LE

[superval99]

I'm crossing fingers that MK's going for the "Transatlantic Sessions"-kind of sound. If so, maybe Ainlay isn't the perfect match? (Wildly speculating of course)

A lot of MK's album band are connected with Transatlantic Sessions - so many, in fact, that it is almost TS!   

[LoveExpresso]

I am sure Mr. Molsky will add some nice and positive things to the new album, the same as I liked very much what Tim O'Brien added to Privateering.
Just little parts, not more, but giving a special flavour to the sound.

LE

[border_reiver]

I'm crossing fingers that MK's going for the "Transatlantic Sessions"-kind of sound. If so, maybe Ainlay isn't the perfect match? (Wildly speculating of course)

A lot of MK's album band are connected with Transatlantic Sessions - so many, in fact, that it is almost TS!   

Yes, true. But what I meant to say was that the TS isn't overproduced, the whole musical setup is crystal clear and not lost in the mix.

I hope I was clear enough 

[vgonis]

Lanois for me! Or Brian Eno. Let's get some new sounds.

[ds1984]

Maybe a cost thing too, the records don't sell many copies these days, especially when they don't even get released in the world's biggest marketplace.

Which one ?