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Author Topic: Rock and roll hall of fame  (Read 423469 times)

Offlineholaknopfler

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #1305 on: April 16, 2018, 12:59:57 AM »
Mark loves fans.

REALLY?  Does MK really like the fans?  Some days, im not totally convinced....

I think we have all seen behaviour from MK that makes us question how much he likes the people who got him where he is.....
As John put it nicely: "None of this would have happened without MK". MK is the one who got him where he is. Every other person involved contributed with talent, but still benefited from Mark's genius abilities as a songwriter and as a guitarist. He does not owe us s**t. If he has personal reasons not to go that he does not want to disclose, let's respect that. Looking at how tasteless and way to late this ceremony was, he might be right ! He changed my life with the albums and the shows, and I am grateful that he is still doing that. His absence at RRHOF will take nothing out of that. I would have been happy to see him hug the other members and play.... Only if I had been sure they he was happy to do it. He gives us sincerity, not an hypocritical half-hearted reunion. He has always thanked everybody in his career. Watch Alchemy just before "Going Home", how he humbly says "Thanks for giving us a good time"; watch Wembley 85, how shy he is with Hank, saying that he still wishes he could make his guitar sound like "the man himself" does; watch Sydney 86, how he thanks everyone, the band, the Roadies... He does not spit on DS, last year he had been with John to collect an award for the 40 years of the group.
Guys, he is no asshole, he is just being Mark.
Let's just move on, shall we ?

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #1306 on: April 16, 2018, 01:18:03 AM »
Mark loves fans.

REALLY?  Does MK really like the fans?  Some days, im not totally convinced....

I think we have all seen behaviour from MK that makes us question how much he likes the people who got him where he is.....
As John put it nicely: "None of this would have happened without MK". MK is the one who got him where he is. Every other person involved contributed with talent, but still benefited from Mark's genius abilities as a songwriter and as a guitarist. He does not owe us s**t. If he has personal reasons not to go that he does not want to disclose, let's respect that. Looking at how tasteless and way to late this ceremony was, he might be right ! He changed my life with the albums and the shows, and I am grateful that he is still doing that. His absence at RRHOF will take nothing out of that. I would have been happy to see him hug the other members and play.... Only if I had been sure they he was happy to do it. He gives us sincerity, not an hypocritical half-hearted reunion. He has always thanked everybody in his career. Watch Alchemy just before "Going Home", how he humbly says "Thanks for giving us a good time"; watch Wembley 85, how shy he is with Hank, saying that he still wishes he could make his guitar sound like "the man himself" does; watch Sydney 86, how he thanks everyone, the band, the Roadies... He does not spit on DS, last year he had been with John to collect an award for the 40 years of the group.
Guys, he is no asshole, he is just being Mark.
Let's just move on, shall we ?


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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #1307 on: April 16, 2018, 03:02:45 AM »
Mark loves fans.

REALLY?  Does MK really like the fans?  Some days, im not totally convinced....

I think we have all seen behaviour from MK that makes us question how much he likes the people who got him where he is.....
As John put it nicely: "None of this would have happened without MK". MK is the one who got him where he is. Every other person involved contributed with talent, but still benefited from Mark's genius abilities as a songwriter and as a guitarist. He does not owe us s**t. If he has personal reasons not to go that he does not want to disclose, let's respect that. Looking at how tasteless and way to late this ceremony was, he might be right ! He changed my life with the albums and the shows, and I am grateful that he is still doing that. His absence at RRHOF will take nothing out of that. I would have been happy to see him hug the other members and play.... Only if I had been sure they he was happy to do it. He gives us sincerity, not an hypocritical half-hearted reunion. He has always thanked everybody in his career. Watch Alchemy just before "Going Home", how he humbly says "Thanks for giving us a good time"; watch Wembley 85, how shy he is with Hank, saying that he still wishes he could make his guitar sound like "the man himself" does; watch Sydney 86, how he thanks everyone, the band, the Roadies... He does not spit on DS, last year he had been with John to collect an award for the 40 years of the group.
Guys, he is no asshole, he is just being Mark.
Let's just move on, shall we ?
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Offlineallen

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #1308 on: April 16, 2018, 04:11:54 AM »
Anyone knows what Dire Straits item John donated to RRHOF Museum?
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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #1309 on: April 16, 2018, 07:04:52 AM »
Mark loves fans.

REALLY?  Does MK really like the fans?  Some days, im not totally convinced....

I think we have all seen behaviour from MK that makes us question how much he likes the people who got him where he is.....

The way I see it, the word 'fans' is a bit weird. Fanatics. We're not fanatics in the literal sense.

We're supposed to be educated grown people, not fanatics teens anymore and MK knows that too. He knows which kind of people come to his shows and who listens to his music.
Therefore he doesn't need to run some kind of teenagers fan club. And we're supposed to understand that he's just a guy who creates music and offers it to whoever wants to listen without expecting any kind of special relationship in return.

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #1310 on: April 16, 2018, 08:04:19 AM »
 :hmm

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #1311 on: April 16, 2018, 09:00:23 AM »
In the end, just think about this:

This is the last public image that Dire Straits leaves for history.

Just think about it.
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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #1312 on: April 16, 2018, 09:40:16 AM »
In the end, just think about this:

This is the last public image that Dire Straits leaves for history.

Just think about it.

You're probably just too concerned about an issue that really isn't one.
Dire Straits ended approximately 25 years ago. Maybe even after the Brothers In Arms tour if we're really honest. On Every Street and the tour that followed felt kind of forced down the throat in the sense that MK didn't invest much of himself into it.
On The Night is kind of a debacle compared to Alchemy if you know what I mean. Who wouldn't have wished a much better live album, or let's say a better conclusion ? It was definitely the right time to put an end to this journey.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2018, 09:48:35 AM by Trawlerman »

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #1313 on: April 16, 2018, 09:41:10 AM »
In the end, just think about this:

This is the last public image that Dire Straits leaves for history.

Just think about it.

Much better than MK playing an old song he didn't rehearse or can't play anymore IMHO.

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #1314 on: April 16, 2018, 09:43:03 AM »
In the end, just think about this:

This is the last public image that Dire Straits leaves for history.

Just think about it.

Much better than MK playing an old song he didn't rehearse or can't play anymore IMHO.

Like let's say, Sultans of swing?

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #1315 on: April 16, 2018, 09:45:25 AM »
In the end, just think about this:

This is the last public image that Dire Straits leaves for history.

Just think about it.

You're probably just to concerned about an issue that really isn't one.
Dire Straits ended approximately 25 years ago. Maybe even after the Brothers In Arms tour if we're really honest. On Every Street and the tour that followed felt kind of forced down the throat.

No, I'm not.

From an objective point of view. This is the very last DS public appearance.

And it was what it was. And it's how it's going to be remembered., Their last public appearance as DS...
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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #1316 on: April 16, 2018, 09:59:18 AM »
In the end, just think about this:

This is the last public image that Dire Straits leaves for history.

Just think about it.

You're probably just to concerned about an issue that really isn't one.
Dire Straits ended approximately 25 years ago. Maybe even after the Brothers In Arms tour if we're really honest. On Every Street and the tour that followed felt kind of forced down the throat.

No, I'm not.

From an objective point of view. This is the very last DS public appearance.

And it was what it was. And it's how it's going to be remembered., Their last public appearance as DS...

You're right but I don't see it as an issue really.
Most people don't even know who Mark Knopfler is.

Even back in the day, he's always just been the voice and guitar of Dire Straits, he's never been a charismatic iconic frontman and leader, he has never been someone like Freddie Mercury and probably never wanted to be either.

Just ask around who the hell is Mark Knopfler. Everyone knows Money For Nothing's riff but very few people will be able to tell you who plays it.

That's the thing with Dire Straits, a very successful band that sold over 120 millions albums worldwide and very few people can name even one single musician. It's really one of a kind.

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #1317 on: April 16, 2018, 10:05:29 AM »
Whatever...

But for history, this was last DS public appearance.

I'm not concerned, but this is it.
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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #1318 on: April 16, 2018, 10:14:52 AM »
Whatever...

But for history, this was last DS public appearance.

I'm not concerned, but this is it.

True
Good thing is, MK, the voice, guitar, the creative and driving force of DS isn't dead yet. We'll soon hear new music from him and we'll still get to see him live. And life will go on for whoever chooses to follow his path.

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #1319 on: April 16, 2018, 10:27:03 AM »
Whatever...

But for history, this was last DS public appearance.

I'm not concerned, but this is it.

We are fans but very few other people will have any clue that any of this happened, same as they wouldn't know about Zaragoza.

Most people will just think that DS is a cool old band. And I'm fine with that.
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