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Author Topic: Rock and roll hall of fame  (Read 423114 times)

OfflineJF

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #255 on: December 21, 2017, 08:49:15 AM »

This is what I expect to happen! Sultans of swing will be played, of course.

yes great but it means, that all nominees would perform together ?
you mean Bon Jovi with the Cars and Dire Straits ? ::) :lol

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #256 on: December 21, 2017, 08:53:32 AM »
And you forget the mucisians that will introduce the inductees. Who will introduce DS? Bruce Springsteen? Bob Dylan?Killers?
Come on, it is not funny anymore.

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #257 on: December 21, 2017, 09:12:17 AM »
And you forget the mucisians that will introduce the inductees. Who will introduce DS? Bruce Springsteen? Bob Dylan?Killers?

Wow, a good question. It could be virtually anyone... Dylan would be the ultimate choice. Lol imagine David Knopfler giving out the award to Mark, this would be even cooler than DS reunion! But of course I bet nothing extraordinary will happen and even the announcer will be as boring as possible.

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #258 on: December 21, 2017, 09:55:44 AM »
When you find the basel DVD at you local Fnac (I did)  that means that soon the Sacem will release its dogs (and this what happened)...

Underground should remain where he has to stay.
A ridiculous fight if you want my opinion.
Mark has almost never bothered to release anything live.
I myself have bought several versions of each and single official release from MK and DS. So I will take no lecture about buying the other stuff. I bought the immortal Rockpalast DVD with no remorse, because at least it feels semi-official and it is brought to the masses. I don't understand the "support Mark, don't buy unofficial" moto. I would rather "support Mark, buy everything, but hey Mark, support yourself, release things officially, so that this pirated market does not exist anymore".
Fully agree!

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Couldn't agree more.

Funnily, if I buy records these days (out of loyalty with the artist, and because I like the booklets), I also download them (for free!!!) somewhere, so I have them on my phone, too.

The whole copyright discussion is pointless in a digital age, anyway. Everybody will get everything for free if they want it. That's just a fact, and it won't disappear because some corporate executive wishes it did. "Copyright" is a privilege that artists and writers were able to enjoy for a while (some 200 years, maybe), but there were millions of artists before that who didn't have it (think Bach or Van Gogh), and it's ultimately an illogical concept. Have you ever heard a baker complain about not being able to bake 1 loaf of bread and sell it a million times? If musicians are forced to play live again to make money, that's a good thing in my opinion. It's not a shame. It's back to normal.


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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #259 on: December 21, 2017, 10:16:07 AM »
I'm not against copyright.
I'm against lack of availability, which is way different.
If there is an official source that I can get for a reasonable price and time I will ALWAYS take this route - both out of honesty and preference for a professional quality package endorsed by the artist.
But if piracy is the only way to get the thing, I will have no remorse whatsoever - I don't consider it as piracy any more.
The case of Rockpalast is slighly different. The thing is legally available for free on the internet - a fan record from the TV. Die-hard anti-piracy activists pointed to me that I should have got it there instead of giving money to Immortal and not Mark. I hear that, but I still bought the immortal. I feel good to get a package that feels semi-official. And I'm happy to see it in big stores, because at least it brings it to the casual fans, not only to get-a-lifers computer nerds like ourselves. Live music should be for everyone, not only geeks :)
If Mark is not happy with this situation, he is in power to release things officially. My take on it is that he does not give a damn, and that is only a concern for Paul Crowford...

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #260 on: December 21, 2017, 10:28:05 AM »
I'm not against copyright.
I'm against lack of availability, which is way different.
If there is an official source that I can get for a reasonable price and time I will ALWAYS take this route - both out of honesty and preference for a professional quality package endorsed by the artist.
But if piracy is the only way to get the thing, I will have no remorse whatsoever - I don't consider it as piracy any more.
The case of Rockpalast is slighly different. The thing is legally available for free on the internet - a fan record from the TV. Die-hard anti-piracy activists pointed to me that I should have got it there instead of giving money to Immortal and not Mark. I hear that, but I still bought the immortal. I feel good to get a package that feels semi-official. And I'm happy to see it in big stores, because at least it brings it to the casual fans, not only to get-a-lifers computer nerds like ourselves. Live music should be for everyone, not only geeks :)
If Mark is not happy with this situation, he is in power to release things officially. My take on it is that he does not give a damn, and that is only a concern for Paul Crowford...

I also buy the official recordings whenever they're available. I'm willing to pay for the extra value they give me (artwork, the ability to have the product I love in my hands). I still think copyright is doomed, though – and that's not a bad thing IMO.

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #261 on: December 21, 2017, 03:40:27 PM »

A nice interview about copyright, digital era and musicians.
Come on, it is not funny anymore.

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #262 on: December 23, 2017, 01:58:54 AM »
And you forget the mucisians that will introduce the inductees. Who will introduce DS? Bruce Springsteen? Bob Dylan?Killers?

Killers would be a good choice or Sting.

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #263 on: December 23, 2017, 03:45:24 AM »
I'd like to see Eric Clapton do it. One legend to another.

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #264 on: December 23, 2017, 02:06:35 PM »
I'd like to see Eric Clapton do it. One legend to another.

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #265 on: December 23, 2017, 04:15:37 PM »
I'd like to see Eric Clapton do it. One legend to another.

Nice idea.  If only Chet was still alive though... :'(
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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #266 on: December 29, 2017, 01:53:36 AM »
https://monoskop.org/images/a/a4/Heylin_Clinton_Bootleg_The_Secret_History_of_the_Other_Recording_Industry.pdf
interesting PDF on bootlegs,

The taper you mean is Mike Millard by any chance?

Thanks for this great link Vgonis :)
Hey, i`ve got a truffle dog - finally a song the ordinary man can relate too!

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #267 on: January 07, 2018, 10:25:27 PM »
I really wonder if they will play a song or 2  :think
John is touring Europe untill the end of march so not much time to rehearsel.
Perhaps some news about this in the next few weeks. Still nothing official from MK about this.
I wonder if he will give any interviews in the next few months...

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #268 on: January 07, 2018, 11:58:23 PM »
I do remember Phish played two songs of Genesis when Genesis was inducted, while Genesis members except Peter Gabriel were there in the audience watching.   I do hope Phish is not active now.  I do not want to see the same thing happened on Dire Straits.   :(

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #269 on: January 08, 2018, 12:14:13 AM »
Why did Genesis not perform???

 

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