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Author Topic: Rock and roll hall of fame  (Read 424281 times)

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Re: Rock and roll hall of fame
« Reply #1590 on: April 24, 2018, 09:25:10 AM »

 I have never been of the opinion that Mark could do no wrong.   As I said earlier, to me he is a genius, but a flawed one and I have always accepted that.    If he had killed or molested someone, that would be a different matter, but not turning up at the HoF ceremony without explanation?   That's not a reason for me to stop being a fan!
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Re: Rock and roll hall of fame
« Reply #1591 on: April 24, 2018, 09:35:14 AM »
Exactly Val. And maybe MK just thinks the Hof thing is bull sh*t but doesn't want to be impolite seeing so. Sometimes it's better to say nothing, so others can enjoy it.

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Re: Rock and roll hall of fame
« Reply #1592 on: April 24, 2018, 09:43:05 AM »

 I have never been of the opinion that Mark could do no wrong.   As I said earlier, to me he is a genius, but a flawed one and I have always accepted that.    If he had killed or molested someone, that would be a different matter, but not turning up at the HoF ceremony without explanation?   That's not a reason for me to stop being a fan!

It's probably the ugly side of fame Mark talked about many times.
People expecting you to do things you don't want to do, dealing with things you couldn't care less and having to do things you wouldn't have to do if you were just a regular person.
He didn't request any of this and all of a sudden people are expecting him to revive something he buried 25 years ago.
And now he has to face criticism for simply trying to ignore that circus he never asked for in the first place.
That's unfair imho. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes.

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Re: Rock and roll hall of fame
« Reply #1593 on: April 24, 2018, 10:21:28 AM »
Exactly Val. And maybe MK just thinks the Hof thing is bull sh*t but doesn't want to be impolite seeing so. Sometimes it's better to say nothing, so others can enjoy it.
Exactly.
An official statement about a 30-year overdue, ill-organized and bad taste event could have been as  sarcastic as TOTT lyrics.
All of you moaners, think it could have been worse: imagine an official statement from MK saying "Poor souls... have fun with this crap if it suits you". What would you say of that ? :)

This being said, the sheer elegance, humility and simplicity from John (and even Guy) is touching. John is to Mark what Nick Mason is to Roger Waters - not a genius, just a very nice human being trying his best to make things work.

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Re: Rock and roll hall of fame
« Reply #1594 on: April 24, 2018, 10:32:42 AM »
Exactly Val. And maybe MK just thinks the Hof thing is bull sh*t but doesn't want to be impolite seeing so. Sometimes it's better to say nothing, so others can enjoy it.

It costs nothing more than a few seconds to do a polite note.

It costs nothing to be nice.
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Re: Rock and roll hall of fame
« Reply #1595 on: April 24, 2018, 10:39:10 AM »
Exactly Val. And maybe MK just thinks the Hof thing is bull sh*t but doesn't want to be impolite seeing so. Sometimes it's better to say nothing, so others can enjoy it.

It costs nothing more than a few seconds to do a polite note.

It costs nothing to be nice.

I agree with you, jbaent, but it's not going to give me sleepless nights and it's not going to stop me buying his albums or attending his concerts.   I have more important things to worry about other than MK saying thank you, or not - life's too short.    :)
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Re: Rock and roll hall of fame
« Reply #1596 on: April 24, 2018, 10:45:57 AM »
Me neither.

But I'm deeply disappointed with what we used to say about MK, that was a humble down on earth man. That's not humble but grumpy, that's not down to earth but rude.

To be nice and polite would had been humble and down to earth.

He's more like Bob day by day. I would still like his music but not him anymore.
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Re: Rock and roll hall of fame
« Reply #1597 on: April 24, 2018, 10:50:50 AM »
Me neither.

But I'm deeply disappointed with what we used to say about MK, that was a humble down on earth man. That's not humble but grumpy, that's not down to earth but rude.

To be nice and polite would had been humble and down to earth.

He's more like Bob day by day. I would still like his music but not him anymore.
Honestly, I doubt he is even aware his not reacting created so much fuzz on here. Just saying, for him this may truly be an issue of simply not being interested.

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Re: Rock and roll hall of fame
« Reply #1598 on: April 24, 2018, 10:51:37 AM »
Exactly Val. And maybe MK just thinks the Hof thing is bull sh*t but doesn't want to be impolite seeing so. Sometimes it's better to say nothing, so others can enjoy it.
Exactly.
An official statement about a 30-year overdue, ill-organized and bad taste event could have been as  sarcastic as TOTT lyrics.
All of you moaners, think it could have been worse: imagine an official statement from MK saying "Poor souls... have fun with this crap if it suits you". What would you say of that ? :)

This being said, the sheer elegance, humility and simplicity from John (and even Guy) is touching. John is to Mark what Nick Mason is to Roger Waters - not a genius, just a very nice human being trying his best to make things work.

However, it cost nothing to be polite and say thank you but I can't go, busy working in two projects.

It costs nothing to be nice even with what you don't like
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Re: Rock and roll hall of fame
« Reply #1599 on: April 24, 2018, 10:51:42 AM »
Exactly Val. And maybe MK just thinks the Hof thing is bull sh*t but doesn't want to be impolite seeing so. Sometimes it's better to say nothing, so others can enjoy it.
Exactly.
An official statement about a 30-year overdue, ill-organized and bad taste event could have been as  sarcastic as TOTT lyrics.
All of you moaners, think it could have been worse: imagine an official statement from MK saying "Poor souls... have fun with this crap if it suits you". What would you say of that ? :)

This being said, the sheer elegance, humility and simplicity from John (and even Guy) is touching. John is to Mark what Nick Mason is to Roger Waters - not a genius, just a very nice human being trying his best to make things work.
Talking Roger waters, jbaent, how was the show last week? I read rave reviews about it

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Re: Rock and roll hall of fame
« Reply #1600 on: April 24, 2018, 10:54:01 AM »
It was great as expected.
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Re: Rock and roll hall of fame
« Reply #1601 on: April 24, 2018, 11:06:11 AM »
Me neither.

But I'm deeply disappointed with what we used to say about MK, that was a humble down on earth man. That's not humble but grumpy, that's not down to earth but rude.

To be nice and polite would had been humble and down to earth.

He's more like Bob day by day. I would still like his music but not him anymore.
Honestly, I doubt he is even aware his not reacting created so much fuzz on here. Just saying, for him this may truly be an issue of simply not being interested.

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Guy says MK takes a look to his forum from time to time, so maybe he is aware but gives a damm about it.
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Re: Rock and roll hall of fame
« Reply #1602 on: April 24, 2018, 11:17:44 AM »
So in short it just means that you should never ever get to know your childhood hero too closely because you will be disappointed. Just like you should never ever buy a super car you had on your wall as a teenager. Some things are best left to the imagination.

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Re: Rock and roll hall of fame
« Reply #1603 on: April 24, 2018, 11:34:03 AM »
Maybe it were good reasons that made him take this decisions. Good in terms of "heroic, loyal". Maybe the fact that they did not want to pay Davids travel costs made it impossible for him to go. I still believe in something good in him.

The post about his relation to fame also was a good one. Pretty much nailed it imho.

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Re: Rock and roll hall of fame
« Reply #1604 on: April 24, 2018, 11:40:17 AM »
Me neither.

But I'm deeply disappointed with what we used to say about MK, that was a humble down on earth man. That's not humble but grumpy, that's not down to earth but rude.

To be nice and polite would had been humble and down to earth.

He's more like Bob day by day. I would still like his music but not him anymore.
Honestly, I doubt he is even aware his not reacting created so much fuzz on here. Just saying, for him this may truly be an issue of simply not being interested.

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Guy says MK takes a look to his forum from time to time, so maybe he is aware but gives a damm about it.
Still doubt it

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any Knopfler, Floyd or Dylan will do....

 

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