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Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
« Reply #75 on: May 13, 2013, 01:31:22 PM »
"Diamond" is one of my all time fave and did have very few opportunities to hear it live (actually two times) so I would have been delighted if I was there.

With only 16 songs performed in less than 2 hours and such a catalogue to choose from you can't please everybody.

Especially if several songs are toward or over the 10 minutes long.

So another reason to think that current Marbletown is a waiste of time.

Early 2008 version was quite a fun shorter and strong version, then it evolved and it wa still fun, although the "new part", although highly entertaining, is something that is a very common heard on the folky scene. Now extended that long it had become to "boring" state.

Same boring feel for all the first half of TR, a real sleeper part culminating with thin Richard solo where it  needs something loud and strong. Just have to wake when Mark switch to the Pensa with the hope he will not f.ck the final solo...
Hey, Marbletown is the only extended stuff, like TOL used to be, so let's keep it that way ! :)
As for TR, I like Istanbul a lot, despite the "karaoke mode": energetic, with a bit of synth, fantastic solo, feels back to 2005.
Even the karaoke mode is a bit better than usual: no guital, but Jim' tries his best to make up for it jamming the piano ! :)


what I never understood, is to "cut" the rolling river solo on guitar, but to not replace by another instrument.

in 91/92, it was "logic" : the guitar was "replaced" by the sax. you may like it or not (I like it), but at least it has a "logical" sense, that Mark did many times in many new arrangements : a special part played by a specific instrument in studio is played live by another intsrument. ok

but, since 2008, he decided to replace the guitar by...nothing. and it gives indeed the famous "karaoke" mode like Herlock said.

Mark has a 8-members band, and he hasn't got any idea to give this place to another musician ? Instaed of two cittern, it could have been a violin solo on this part ? or flute or... ok I iknow you don't like flute  ;D But I prefer having an sintrument playing somethnig, then...no solo at all

nonsense IMHO.

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Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
« Reply #76 on: May 13, 2013, 01:40:50 PM »
"Diamond" is one of my all time fave and did have very few opportunities to hear it live (actually two times) so I would have been delighted if I was there.

With only 16 songs performed in less than 2 hours and such a catalogue to choose from you can't please everybody.

Especially if several songs are toward or over the 10 minutes long.

So another reason to think that current Marbletown is a waiste of time.

Early 2008 version was quite a fun shorter and strong version, then it evolved and it wa still fun, although the "new part", although highly entertaining, is something that is a very common heard on the folky scene. Now extended that long it had become to "boring" state.

Same boring feel for all the first half of TR, a real sleeper part culminating with thin Richard solo where it  needs something loud and strong. Just have to wake when Mark switch to the Pensa with the hope he will not f.ck the final solo...
Hey, Marbletown is the only extended stuff, like TOL used to be, so let's keep it that way ! :)
As for TR, I like Istanbul a lot, despite the "karaoke mode": energetic, with a bit of synth, fantastic solo, feels back to 2005.
Even the karaoke mode is a bit better than usual: no guital, but Jim' tries his best to make up for it jamming the piano ! :)


what I never understood, is to "cut" the rolling river solo on guitar, but to not replace by another instrument.

in 91/92, it was "logic" : the guitar was "replaced" by the sax. you may like it or not (I like it), but at least it has a "logical" sense, that Mark did many times in many new arrangements : a special part played by a specific instrument in studio is played live by another intsrument. ok

but, since 2008, he decided to replace the guitar by...nothing. and it gives indeed the famous "karaoke" mode like Herlock said.

Mark has a 8-members band, and he hasn't got any idea to give this place to another musician ? Instaed of two cittern, it could have been a violin solo on this part ? or flute or... ok I iknow you don't like flute  ;D But I prefer having an sintrument playing somethnig, then...no solo at all

nonsense IMHO.
Absolutely. I agree with every bit.
Now it is up to Jim's piano to do all the work, and although the piano is not at all equipped to do this alone, Jim gives some energy into it... as a secret call: "Hey Mark ! remember '96 ? I felt less alone on this part at this point, man !" 

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Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
« Reply #77 on: May 13, 2013, 01:54:28 PM »
And remember that wonderful version on the downloadable full show provided with Privateering ultra deluxe editon  ;D
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Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
« Reply #78 on: May 13, 2013, 03:19:09 PM »
I DUG UP A DIAMOND (Antwerpen 2013.05.12) :
Fullscreen it's better ;-)
 

 I was away for the weekend to see the Stones 5oth anniversary concert with Lis. To find out right now that " I dug up a diamond" was played was such a thrill for me.  I just loveeeeeeeeeee this song.  :clap :thumbsup I hope he keeps it in the set for a longgggg time.   I love it more than Tupelo. :)

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Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
« Reply #79 on: May 13, 2013, 03:29:22 PM »
Another great one from IDUAD

 
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Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
« Reply #80 on: May 13, 2013, 04:10:21 PM »
Another great one from IDUAD

 
Sweet ! Not as gorgeous as the 2006 RRLR DVD version with Emmylou's voice and Richard's guitar tough...

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Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
« Reply #81 on: May 13, 2013, 05:36:48 PM »
Quite a poor version imo.  Mark seems to run out of ideas near the end (the guitar becoming very quiet when it should be building to a climax bizarrely), then just decides enough and goes for the final solo.

 
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Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
« Reply #82 on: May 13, 2013, 05:45:58 PM »
Yes agreed. The best one so far is sofia version IMHO.


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Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
« Reply #83 on: May 13, 2013, 06:04:38 PM »
Yes agreed. The best one so far is sofia version IMHO.


Yes this is good...
I love Istanbul too, listening to it I had the impression of going back a bit to the good old Alchemy days... minus the keyboards which I love... but still great, feels like 1979 again... :)

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Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
« Reply #84 on: May 13, 2013, 07:20:12 PM »
Yes agreed. The best one so far is sofia version IMHO.



Funny, I watched that only yesterday and thought the same! :thumbsup
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Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
« Reply #85 on: May 13, 2013, 07:41:27 PM »
Holy cow, now that's a good version! Old licks mixed with some variations. Great.

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Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
« Reply #86 on: May 13, 2013, 07:54:28 PM »
I liked his sultans veeeeeeeeeerrry much yesterday, he keeps doing new stuff lick wise all the time this tour.
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Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
« Reply #87 on: May 13, 2013, 08:19:02 PM »
I liked his sultans veeeeeeeeeerrry much yesterday, he keeps doing new stuff lick wise all the time this tour.

You have to admit Pottel he messed up at the end.
The thing I like about this though is: he couldn't care less
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Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
« Reply #88 on: May 13, 2013, 10:17:58 PM »
I agree he makes more mistakes this tour, but we get new licks, variation and so on. So I can't care about it  :)

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Re: Concert # 13:2013.05.12, Sportpaleis, Antwerp, BE # SPOILER AHEAD #
« Reply #89 on: May 13, 2013, 10:34:07 PM »
Still early on the tour, well see by the end of may how his playing will evolve or not.
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