Author Topic: Dire Straits: Roundhouse, London, 29.01.78 - a discussion (Read 5739 times)

dmg · « **on:** April 06, 2013, 07:51:41 PM »

Not bad sound at all for that era and very interesting to say the least.

Supercharged version of Six Blade and SMU done the same way as the demo version! Very nice Waterline and Sultans (of course). Gallery and WWE sound like they are in their infancy though.

the visitor · « **Reply #1 on:** April 06, 2013, 09:44:34 PM »

this recording is a real gem, just listening to six blade now and too right, turbocharged and different to I have heard before...

rudiger · « **Reply #2 on:** April 06, 2013, 10:37:40 PM »

what can I say? I'm moved

dmg · « **Reply #3 on:** April 06, 2013, 10:38:40 PM »

If I was a member of Talking Heads, I wouldn't want to be going out after this! The audience were listening pretty intensely and gave the young lads a big applause.

Ingo · « **Reply #4 on:** April 07, 2013, 07:38:11 PM »

Great to hear this recording finally

I got a 30 sec sample of this last year, also of the Amsterdam 1978Paradiso gig, and was hoping to get the full recording since then.

Unfortunately the samples I got had a much better sound quality, and the same is true for the Amsterdam gig

It seems both have been over-compressed (I am talking of dynamic compression, not file-size reduction) which causes a typical "headache sound". Not sure what this is about, maybe someone did not want to share it in full quality.

Unfortunately undoing this compression is really hard, I might try with a so-called expander, but it is tricky

Ingo

Ingo · « **Reply #5 on:** April 07, 2013, 08:22:10 PM »

Quote from: dmg on April 06, 2013, 10:38:40 PM

If I was a member of Talking Heads, I wouldn't want to be going out after this!

Reminds me of some little story I read somewhere (Oldfield book?):
One evening on that tour, the TH watched DS changing guitar strings before the gig, and wondered why they wasted their time with this. When DS inspected the TH instruments, they in fact all had some rusty old strings. After the tour TH had changed their mind and always had new strings since then

Pottel · « **Reply #6 on:** April 07, 2013, 08:37:55 PM »

after listening to this i also listened to that amsterdam recording again. both great performances.
this hans devente guy seems to be a very controversial figure. just google his name and thy will find..

Ingo · « **Reply #7 on:** April 07, 2013, 09:25:44 PM »

I got the samples from someone else than Hand DeVente...

Pottel · « **Reply #8 on:** April 07, 2013, 09:34:53 PM »

that was not why i wrote that ingo. still :-)

Love Expresso · « **Reply #9 on:** April 07, 2013, 09:56:05 PM »

I had a good laugh - "controversial" is an understatement if you ask me... Crazy!

LE

JF · « **Reply #10 on:** April 08, 2013, 11:19:41 AM »

Quote from: Ingo on April 07, 2013, 08:22:10 PM

Quote from: dmg on April 06, 2013, 10:38:40 PM
If I was a member of Talking Heads, I wouldn't want to be going out after this!

Reminds me of some little story I read somewhere (Oldfield book?):
One evening on that tour, the TH watched DS changing guitar strings before the gig, and wondered why they wasted their time with this. When DS inspected the TH instruments, they in fact all had some rusty old strings. After the tour TH had changed their mind and always had new strings since then

yes, it is in the Oldfield book

Jules · « **Reply #11 on:** April 08, 2013, 11:27:42 AM »

I wonder which more tapes have this Hans de Vente ("The Madtaper as stated in Dimeadozen")

Its strange that we had the TH shows with two songs with MK and JI playing with them and other show just the DS opening show, looks like he only recorded the TH one show and DS the other?

Or maybe that the tapes are not leaked yet or wont be?

Ingo, I hope you can work out that contact you have for a better sounding source.

Any of this old recordings are very welcome, I dream that one day we could catch one of the very early DS shows when they got to play some David songs (Sacred loving had to be played live, they recorded it for the demos, so...)

vgonis · « **Reply #12 on:** April 10, 2013, 12:07:17 PM »

Pottel if we are on the same page, this guy sounds like a hurt ex lover.

Jules · « **Reply #13 on:** April 10, 2013, 12:20:44 PM »

Looks like this Hank was a TAlking Heads friend...

Is there a list of all this tapes? I read that they are numbered

JF · « **Reply #14 on:** April 11, 2013, 02:51:00 PM »

Quote from: dmg on April 06, 2013, 07:51:41 PM

Not bad sound at all for that era and very interesting to say the least.

Supercharged version of Six Blade and SMU done the same way as the demo version! Very nice Waterline and Sultans (of course). Gallery and WWE sound like they are in their infancy though.

when I read this I expected SMU played same as the demo version, but no, it is played like on the album (the fast chicken riff), altough it has the additional verse. It sounds like played on the thinline telecaster (like on the album). The demo version sounds more the LP standard, with a phaser or so. It's slower, and doesn't have that chicken pickin' country flavour
Six blade knife is played in the demo way, faster than the album version.
Water of love is sung a little bit in the same way as the demo version (not exactly the same, but a little bit)

agree about wild west end : I've never heard it played this way before. mark is playing the rhythm part like on the album version (on the national). I wonder if he plays it on the telecaster in open tuning, or on the strat in standard tuning ?

In oldfield's book, there's some lines about the firts DS gig during summer 77, with Mark on the national on WWE, that means without solo parts.

so maybe, it was played this way until january 78 (it's not on the leeds recording), but after the album release, it was played live with david on rhythm (on telecaster) and mark on lead on srat.