Privateering - Album positions

[Jules]

My car

Number 1 since it was released

 

I thought you were talking about In My Car for a minute!

I knew I would catch someone in my web 

[binone]

I think this is not an album to be listened in the car, but at home, good earsets or a good HI FI.

[Hophead]

My car

Number 1 since it was released

 

+1     The only time I've ejected one of the discs..is to put the other one in. And as far as playing it in the car goes...often...and LOUD..especially "Blood and Water", "Yon two crows", "Got to have something" and "Bluebird"

[vgonis]

Got to have something is a Dylan song.     Ramblin and tumblin reincarnated with other lyrics and production.

[Pottel]

Guess you mean Rollin' an tumblin'?

[vgonis]

So you think that it is the same as well? 
Yes that is the one I meant, but I intentionally changed the word, thus creating a new song as Dylan has.
Neil Young did the same with "Are you ready for the country" Check them out, one after the other and you'll understand.
Beyond here lies nothin'-Dylan--All your love-Otis Rush etc.

[superval99]

So you think that it is the same as well? 
Yes that is the one I meant, but I intentionally changed the word, thus creating a new song as Dylan has.
Neil Young did the same with "Are you ready for the country" Check them out, one after the other and you'll understand.
Beyond here lies nothin'-Dylan--All your love-Otis Rush etc.

LOL vgonis!   Masses of artists have done the same -  Eric Clapton, Bob Dylan, Robert Johnson - even Guy's Bluesband and I think Can't Be Satisfied is another take on the original - the list is endless!   

[dmg]

So you think that it is the same as well? 
Yes that is the one I meant, but I intentionally changed the word, thus creating a new song as Dylan has.
Neil Young did the same with "Are you ready for the country" Check them out, one after the other and you'll understand.
Beyond here lies nothin'-Dylan--All your love-Otis Rush etc.

LOL vgonis!   Masses of artists have done the same -  Eric Clapton, Bob Dylan, Robert Johnson - even Guy's Bluesband and I think Can't Be Satisfied is another take on the original - the list is endless!   

Be a leader, not a follower.

[vgonis]

I must be complaining a lot, but I just think that only these bigger than life artists can get away with it. And it is not fair for the original composers, not just for the money they lose, but because the unsuspected audience doesn't get to listen to the (sometimes) far superior "sources of inspiration". It is different to do a version and name the original composer. This way they get the credit, money, recognition and a new audience. 

[superval99]

I must be complaining a lot, but I just think that only these bigger than life artists can get away with it. And it is not fair for the original composers, not just for the money they lose, but because the unsuspected audience doesn't get to listen to the (sometimes) far superior "sources of inspiration". It is different to do a version and name the original composer. This way they get the credit, money, recognition and a new audience.

I agree vgonis, but correct me if I'm wrong - R & T was originally by Muddy Waters, unless he heard it elsewhere too and so I presume it is out of copyright now.   I had a big problem with Bob Dylan's "Modern Times" where just about every song was originally by someone else (except the lyrics) and none of the composers were credited on that album - just "all songs written by Bob Dylan". 

Do you think MK should have credited Muddy Waters (McKinley Morganfield) for the tune ?   

EDIT:  I have to correct what I have just posted!    I see that the earliest version is "Roll & Tumble Blues" by Hambone Willie Newbern in 1929.

[vgonis]

Val, I really believe that you got my point. I don't get the law thing, so I leave it all together out of this discussion. I don't even like to drop the ethics bomb. But it just reminds me of the Monty Python sketch were Palin claims authorship of every Shakespeare  work. Well it sounded ridiculous and very funny, but in view of these "new" songs I wonder. 
I was only saying that huge artists that want to use something, have to mention the original source, if not for money, for a graceful "hats-off". We are bound by copyright, not freed. Just consider this unlike story: Dylan throwing a lawsuit to our man for stealing his music.   He has every right since the song has only him as author.
I know that all these have been mentioned before by writers from big magazines and newspapers that can influence the public, and still nothing happened, so who am I to mention such things here.

But for those interested :


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollin%27_and_Tumblin%27

[Hophead]

Not gonna fall into the age-old 'who should be credited for what' trap...that argument can go on too infinity. All I know is that "Got to have something" sounds really really good blasting in my car...and I agree with Jbaent that since "Privateering"'s release it has been No. 1...with a bullet...in my car.   

[twm]

"Oh if there's an original thought out there, I could use it right now"
                                            - "Brownsville Girl" [written by Bob Dyaln with Sam Shepard, 1986]

Dylan took this phrase from an earlier song they wrote called "New Danville Girl", so kind-of copied himself.

[Jules]

Guess you mean Rollin' an tumblin'?

Or Robert Johnson

[superval99]

Guess you mean Rollin' an tumblin'?

Or Robert Johnson