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OfflineEl Macho

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Re: Uncut magazine
« Reply #60 on: August 25, 2012, 02:18:12 PM »
never were interested in reviews, not in music, not in film, not in cars ... never
it is always a single opinion - when someone gives 2/10 to shangri la it is obviously not a review, it
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Re: Uncut magazine
« Reply #61 on: August 25, 2012, 02:20:22 PM »
never were interested in reviews, not in music, not in film, not in cars ... never
it is always a single opinion - when someone gives 2/10 to shangri la it is obviously not a review, it
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Re: Uncut magazine
« Reply #62 on: August 25, 2012, 02:35:50 PM »
A journalist review is still subjective !
The guy who gave Shangri-La a 2/10 review is clerly not someone who appreciate MK's work.
And the guy who gave Bob Dylan a 10/10 for Tempest is clealy a BD fan, because only BD's voice is something that can't allow him to reach such levels of reviews !
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Re: Uncut magazine
« Reply #63 on: August 25, 2012, 02:43:14 PM »
Steven Spielberg is not a great director?
Aha.
so i tell you, i am director and director of photography. i studied film, i shot films, i met people who worked with Spielberg. You can ask EVERY actor in the world: who leads best?
It will be Spielberg. See what he is doing with kids in his films. Shooting with kids is the most complicated thing in filmmaking. Watch "Schindler
« Last Edit: August 25, 2012, 03:14:33 PM by another brother »

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Re: Uncut magazine
« Reply #64 on: August 25, 2012, 03:04:38 PM »
A journalist review is still subjective !
The guy who gave Shangri-La a 2/10 review is clerly not someone who appreciate MK's work.
And the guy who gave Bob Dylan a 10/10 for Tempest is clealy a BD fan, because only BD's voice is something that can't allow him to reach such levels of reviews !

I realise you're joking but Bob's voice is an individual thing.  It gives him a unique and distinctive, instantly recognisable tone - something most artists can only dream of.  You can teach most people how to sing if they have a little talent but you can't teach that certain something that makes you stand out from the millions of other people who can sing.  Mark has that certain something too.  Is that what they call the x-factor? :-\ ;D 
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Re: Uncut magazine
« Reply #65 on: August 25, 2012, 03:23:50 PM »
I'm sure that is "the X factor"- and I'm sure the programme of that name wouldn't let either man through the first audition... ;D

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Re: Uncut magazine
« Reply #66 on: August 25, 2012, 03:28:24 PM »
I'm sure that is "the X factor"- and I'm sure the programme of that name wouldn't let either man through the first audition... ;D

I'm sure they would take that as a compliment!
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Re: Uncut magazine
« Reply #67 on: August 25, 2012, 10:07:26 PM »
A journalist review is still subjective !
The guy who gave Shangri-La a 2/10 review is clerly not someone who appreciate MK's work.
And the guy who gave Bob Dylan a 10/10 for Tempest is clealy a BD fan, because only BD's voice is something that can't allow him to reach such levels of reviews !

I realise you're joking but Bob's voice is an individual thing.  It gives him a unique and distinctive, instantly recognisable tone - something most artists can only dream of.  You can teach most people how to sing if they have a little talent but you can't teach that certain something that makes you stand out from the millions of other people who can sing.  Mark has that certain something too.  Is that what they call the x-factor? :-\ ;D 

Not really joking...
In his latest studio albums he sings quite well, much worse than when he was younger but so much better than live !  :lol
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Re: Uncut magazine
« Reply #68 on: August 25, 2012, 10:14:08 PM »
I saw BD live about 6 years ago and again last year. Back then I loved it very much. Last year I couldn't listen to that voice and ran away every concert exept the first one. But that was the first of the tour in Dublin on first row.
« Last Edit: August 25, 2012, 10:18:09 PM by ingridswing »

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Re: Uncut magazine
« Reply #69 on: August 25, 2012, 10:24:37 PM »
A journalist review is still subjective !
The guy who gave Shangri-La a 2/10 review is clerly not someone who appreciate MK's work.
And the guy who gave Bob Dylan a 10/10 for Tempest is clealy a BD fan, because only BD's voice is something that can't allow him to reach such levels of reviews !

I realise you're joking but Bob's voice is an individual thing.  It gives him a unique and distinctive, instantly recognisable tone - something most artists can only dream of.  You can teach most people how to sing if they have a little talent but you can't teach that certain something that makes you stand out from the millions of other people who can sing.  Mark has that certain something too.  Is that what they call the x-factor? :-\ ;D 

Not really joking...
In his latest studio albums he sings quite well, much worse than when he was younger but so much better than live !  :lol


I his saw him just once, last year in Lille.
First row for Mark  ;D , but after the first song my wife felt bad ! Too loud music and inaudible Bob's voice !  :disbelief



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Re: Uncut magazine
« Reply #70 on: August 25, 2012, 11:34:38 PM »
Steven Spielberg is not a great director?
Aha.
so i tell you, i am director and director of photography. i studied film, i shot films, i met people who worked with Spielberg. You can ask EVERY actor in the world: who leads best?
It will be Spielberg. See what he is doing with kids in his films. Shooting with kids is the most complicated thing in filmmaking. Watch "Schindler
any Knopfler, Floyd or Dylan will do....

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Re: Uncut magazine
« Reply #71 on: August 26, 2012, 12:49:28 AM »
It is trivial really but just making conversation and I would love to talk with someone on such matters, maybe at a different thread! By the way glad to have you with us Another Brother and for giving me the chance to talk to somebody who knows about films! :D

First of all before I forget it Another brother hints something you have all missed. Need I elaborate when he gives a 10 to an unreleased record?   ;)

About Spielberg, I have to say that he has started hopefully, made his good movies in the 80ies and early 90ies and the rest were just solid movies. Meaning that choosing to direct weak and flawed scenarios is a mistake in the first place, no matter how good are the rest components. I like European directors more, because they don't rely on the expensive FX, but on scenarios that dig a bit deeper in the human condition and nature. Wim Wenders, Kieslowski, Leconte, etc. And there are many Americans that film low budget movies and have to focus on a good script and nice acting: Jim Jarmusch, Steve Buscemi, Woody Allen and many more, that follow in a way the route Frank Capra paved before them. Of course, they are pretty good   before they are discovered and ruined by Hollywood, in order to make a blockbuster. See Terry Gilliam, Darren Aranowski etc.  And a small detour, how come there are no great comedies?(preferably in the Marx brothers vein) The last good comedies were based on the good acting of the Saturday night live generation from the late seventies.

Maybe I seem like the guy that prefers script over picture, but no. I enjoy an action  movie as the next guy, but it is just passing time. Minority report was very good, but still not better than Blade runner. (As a matter of fact these 2 are the only P.K.Dick based movies that I can watch again. The rest were crap)   

The last Spielberg movie I enjoyed, but as a late Saturday night movie at home (if you know what I mean), was "Catch me if you can". But it left no taste other than it was a story well told.  There is no depth. My favourite Spielberg movie is Empire of the sun, with the young Christian Bale, so I guess there is truth that he gets the best out of his actors and especially kids.

So in my opinion maybe he is a fine maestro of the camera, directing with great ingenuity and finesse, inventing new ways to present things, on the other hand he is only creating nice sequences. I guess it is just a matter of opinion, but when James Cameron says good words for other directors, you've got to take a hint. Titanic...

The fact that Picasso said that thing about critics who can't paint and that you have to learn Chinese to understand Chinese, is true up to a point. But you don't have to eat something rotten to know it is rotten. Some things are just a matter of personal taste.   And anyway, how many people on earth know how to play music or shoot a film but are capable of enjoying them? Or not?  I am jealous because I can't play the guitar, but I love MK's music and guitar playing. And is it really different to have an opinion expressed in a small circle of friends or as an official critic in a magazine? (Apart maybe from the sales effect it might have). Regardless of my opinion for Spielberg's movies, one thing I feel awkward about when talking about likes and dislikes and subjective opinions for trivial matters, mentioning university titles, diplomas and PHDs. It is as unfair as kicking the critics opinion. It doesn't prove that you are correct and it certainly isn't a safe indication of good taste. But as I said it is really trivial and a personal thing.


Come on, it is not funny anymore.

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Re: Uncut magazine
« Reply #72 on: August 26, 2012, 01:47:00 AM »
the "problem" of critics (for me) simply is, there is often too much personal taste in it.
when you write about a blockbuster, but you like more jim jarmusch, you must be able to differentiate and to judge the blockbuster film in its genre as that, what it is: popcorn cinema, entertainment. even if you say a film is boring, it

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Re: Uncut magazine
« Reply #73 on: August 26, 2012, 05:27:29 AM »
Was just watching "Jaws" again the other night, it's out on Blu-ray now. I like!

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Re: Uncut magazine
« Reply #74 on: August 26, 2012, 12:22:33 PM »
Was just watching "Jaws" again the other night, it's out on Blu-ray now. I like!

LE

There's a new special edition/box set coming out here in the UK I noticed in HMV.  I don't think I've got room for it though;  gonna need a bigger...cupboard! ;D
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