Mark and David

[superval99]

I love KTGC too!     

[dustyvalentino]

I like scaffolders wife, fizzy and the still, secondary waltz and let it all go, so it has its moments.

But I can't see how anybody could make a case against this being his "least worst" album.

[herlock]

I like KTGC very much.
Not my very favourite (this would be STP, TRD or P, depending on my mood), but I like it way better than SL, for instance...

[nababo]

OK, Rollergirl some years ago convinced me that it is a fine album and I should give it another try. I spent about a week with this constantly on my player. The voice was there the guitar was there and I was almost thrilled to discover a new favourite album. Alas, the number of times I listened to it after that period can be counted on the fingers of my one hand even if I missed a couple of fingers...
Maybe it has something to do with MK producing fresh work, or my family growing, or with so many great musicians being discovered ( Mona Dee has some great suggestions) or maybe because I have grown and listened to it in the wrong time, but yes it still is the album I listen to rarely. Calling it bad would sound to "objective" so I will only call it my least favourite. 

It's my least favourite MK album too, despite some highs. "True love..." was the oppening tune in my wedding ceremony, three years ago. I also enjoy "Heart full of holes", "We can get wild", "Punish the monkey" and "In the sky". But "The scaffolder's wife", "The fizzy and the still" and "The fish and the bird" are ever-present in my bottom five MK's songs.

[vgonis]

SL is one of my favourites, if this proves anything. I like the sound of his guitar!
BTW, punish the monkey intro reminds me very much of a Chris Rea number" On the beach". Not a bad thing of course.  Anyone else thought the same?

[nababo]

SL is one of my favourites, if this proves anything. I like the sound of his guitar!
BTW, punish the monkey intro reminds me very much of a Chris Rea number" On the beach". Not a bad thing of course.  Anyone else thought the same?

I like Chris Rea very much - have every album of his in my HD , but never noticed this tune before. I've just listened to the song again and sorry, greek wizard, didn't find much similarities, both 1986 and 88 versions.

[vgonis]

Will not insist on any particular similarities! I was just reminded of it! The intro (the guitar playing the main - backing riff) is slowed and toned down.

[foma]

Will not insist on any particular similarities! I was just reminded of it! The intro (the guitar playing the main - backing riff) is slowed and toned down.

Well, both songs have a light-sounded chorused rhythm guitar, both have a laid back and light-sounded lead guitar, both have an intro without bass and rhytmic percussion. Much more similarities than I thought. Rea's voice is something beyond my understanding, though. One of the best voices I ever heard, sounds like a quoir singing.

[alabhaois]

This estrangement between the two brothers reminds me of Ray and Dave Davies. Originally it was Dave who was commandeering the group, then Ray came along, and the rest is history. I remember reading that they rarely saw each other except the usual weddings, funerals...

Evidently since Dave had his stroke, Ray has made more of an effort.

I'm finding that, since I've gotten older, tension among siblings is not uncommon at all. Sometimes outright loathing.

[vgonis]

Kinks, is the true English group from the 60ies. Their music has in its core the essence of englishness, and since they express this so good, it is univesal at the same time. The Beatles only touched this in some occassions, while the other big names the Stones, Who, Faces etc. missed it, sounding more like the best US music of the day.
And Ray was the mastermind. In Something else by the Kinks Dave offers two of his greatest compositions (included) and the album is a triumph of pop music. Somehow his compositions stick due to being excellent and don't quite fit due to being somehow different from the Ray compositions.

But Ray and Dave kept going for so many years together...

[superval99]

Kinks, is the true English group from the 60ies. Their music has in its core the essence of englishness, and since they express this so good, it is univesal at the same time. The Beatles only touched this in some occassions, while the other big names the Stones, Who, Faces etc. missed it, sounding more like the best US music of the day.
And Ray was the mastermind. In Something else by the Kinks Dave offers two of his greatest compositions (included) and the album is a triumph of pop music. Somehow his compositions stick due to being excellent and don't quite fit due to being somehow different from the Ray compositions.

But Ray and Dave kept going for so many years together...

Not the essence of Englishness - more the essence of London!   The Beatles were an entirely different cup of tea!   

[vgonis]

I really am not in the position to judge! I only say this as a foreigner. But one of their crowning achievments,  their  "Village green preservation society" is far from being just for London, me thinks.

[superval99]

I really am not in the position to judge! I only say this as a foreigner. But one of their crowning achievments,  their  "Village green preservation society" is far from being just for London, me thinks.

Yes of course - brilliant song!   

[vgonis]

Wonderful version Val! And the album of the same name is superb and about the old ways! 

[dmg]

I saw The Kinks last year in Glasgow at The Royal Concert Hall!  Last Friday I saw The Hollies at the same venue!