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Re: Mark and David
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2012, 09:47:35 PM »
JBaent, I'd love to see that article if it is still around somewhere.


I remember this article because I translated it from English for Russian fan website. It's article ("Dance of the millions from anti-hero" or like that) by Jip Golsteijn, De Telegraaf, September 2000. But the text is lost.

I just can translate it back to English and Mark's words regarding David were:  "He had already eaten his charity bread and butter, a lot, and it was very expensive, but it was charity bread and butter"

P.S. cannot believe it but it's possible to read (Google translation from Russian to English)
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmarkknopfler.ru%2Frus%2Farticles_200009dd_detelegraph.htm
« Last Edit: August 06, 2012, 09:59:46 PM by ustas »

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Re: Mark and David
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2012, 10:55:38 PM »
I found this link: http://home.kpn.nl/jekkie/Mark%20Knopfler/Tel160900.txt

It is easier to read but still doesn't make much sense to me. Is this a legitimate interview? Seems fishy to me.

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Re: Mark and David
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2012, 11:07:16 PM »
sadly enough that journalist died...
any Knopfler, Floyd or Dylan will do....

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Re: Mark and David
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2012, 11:07:26 PM »
in 2002
any Knopfler, Floyd or Dylan will do....

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Re: Mark and David
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2012, 11:10:57 PM »
I can never imagine MK saying things like these in this open manner - not because I am a fanboy  :disbelief , but because I read so many interviews and statements from MK over the years that I somehow can really recognize his style - this whole stuff seems made up, sorry to say...

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Re: Mark and David
« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2012, 11:29:10 PM »
or not correctly translated to begin with (i do not mean you ustas)
any Knopfler, Floyd or Dylan will do....

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Re: Mark and David
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2012, 11:44:20 PM »
Hmmmm. Still sceptical.. Talking about money in that open way, admitting that they did not speak to each other during the tour for such a long time... critizing in such an open way what the Eagles did...

Is this the only scource where MK talks in a bad manner about David (which was the part that got this interview thing started...) I always thought he might not want to talk about it but never would say anything bad or negative... it was always in the line of "he is doing fine now and does what he always wanted to do, composing his own stuff...")

But hey, today is ok, today is just fine....  :lol :lol :lol :lol

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Re: Mark and David
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2012, 11:44:38 PM »
Fact is that Mark never says a bad thing about David, while David does about Mark at every single possible occasion. So the question is who really is the "strange character".....  :disbelief

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Naaaah, that's not entirely true... I visited more than one DK show and once and a while DK announced Wild West End as a song "well, this one was written by Mark... ehm... Knopfler I suppose" (after he made the same joke about a Springsteen song). Imo the articles are a bit biased...

Anyway, in general I think DK does a great job and in this type of business, you can't be someone else's slave if you have your own music. He would have killed himself when it comes to creativity when he'd have been playing with MK over the years without having his own stuff. :)

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Re: Mark and David
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2012, 10:12:26 AM »
I read the original article in english, found it in google news at that time. Never asked myself if it was fake, but I was surprised about how he talked about David. I thought that maybe he was pissed off by the interviewer...

I suppose that Mark was angry - if I remember David had a claim against Mark regarding royalties from SOS compilation release. This conflict was in 1999 or 2000.

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http://web.archive.org/web/19990427152800/http://www.knopfler.com/scam.html
« Last Edit: August 07, 2012, 10:22:04 AM by ustas »

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Re: Mark and David
« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2012, 10:42:59 AM »
Strange interview, hard to believe.

But if the song Let's See You isn't about Dave then I'm the son of a Privateer!
Hey, i`ve got a truffle dog - finally a song the ordinary man can relate too!

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Re: Mark and David
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2012, 10:56:21 AM »
After reading the text by Anna Knopfler (David's wife?), I wonder if the same situation applies to Pick Withers as he'd be the "fourth quarter" of the early DS lineup:

And all this when David has an iron clad contract obliging their company to pay him

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Re: Mark and David
« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2012, 12:22:56 PM »
It's certainly not nice to bring a family dispute into the public domain.  Whoever is to blame, it is none of our business but very much a personal matter and should be kept as such.  Publishing things such as this on an official web site is not the way to go.  Poor show.
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Re: Mark and David
« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2012, 12:28:33 PM »
It's certainly not nice to bring a family dispute into the public domain.  Whoever is to blame, it is none of our business but very much a personal matter and should be kept as such.  Publishing things such as this on an official web site is not the way to go.  Poor show.

I totally agree with you, dmg!   Let's also remember there are always two sides to these matters, but in any case it is no business of ours! 
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Re: Mark and David
« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2012, 12:36:15 PM »
It's certainly not nice to bring a family dispute into the public domain.  Whoever is to blame, it is none of our business but very much a personal matter and should be kept as such.  Publishing things such as this on an official web site is not the way to go.  Poor show.

I totally agree with you, dmg!   Let's also remember there are always two sides to these matters, but in any case it is no business of ours! 

Totally agree with you both:
1. It's none of our business
2. Publishing stuff like this is not nice
3. Story has 2 sides
4. If something is going on, we can't judge. You have to be a lawyer with knowledge of all contracts and even then it's hard to find out what's legal or not, and what's someone's right or not




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Re: Mark and David
« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2012, 12:45:20 PM »
It's certainly not nice to bring a family dispute into the public domain.  Whoever is to blame, it is none of our business but very much a personal matter and should be kept as such.  Publishing things such as this on an official web site is not the way to go.  Poor show.

I totally agree with you, dmg!   Let's also remember there are always two sides to these matters, but in any case it is no business of ours! 

Totally agree with you both:
1. It's none of our business
2. Publishing stuff like this is not nice
3. Story has 2 sides
4. If something is going on, we can't judge. You have to be a lawyer with knowledge of all contracts and even then it's hard to find out what's legal or not, and what's someone's right or not





Laws on copyright/rights for royalties are very, very difficult. You have to consider a million of things, and maybe then there are a few things you might forget. I am studying Laws, since a few months but officially in september and I can tell you: It is not easy. The band members, label, record company, managers, engineers in studio's.. Everybody wants their part. And as Ingrid says: We don't know the story. We can talk about it, but you can't say if you don't have the contracts: It is Mark/David his fault. Luckily we won't do that either :)
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