Guitars from old New York

[twm]

Sorry, Pottel, I simply didn't put 2 and 2 together. You didn't mention the year nor the name of the club and I guess they were uppermost in my mind. I assume that DS played SF around 14 September 1985 but I wouldn't have known that without looking it up somewhere. Where, I'm not sure.

[Pottel]

this is where the Straits (the real ones) were playing back then:
12.09.85   Greek Theatre Los Angeles
13.09.85   Concord Pavilion San Francisco
14.09.85   Concord Pavilion San Francisco
15.09.85   Cal expo Sacramento

[twm]

That all fits together neatly then. Good stuff. I guess you folks need only to track down a recording of some kind now.

[Pottel]

been looking for that since the day i heard about it.
imagine my hopes jumping when i saw that JJ Cale upload for sept. 13th of that year on dime....asked for the evening after in that upload but got no reply to date...
the manager man said no recording was made by them (is like the guy from decca not taking on the beatles coz he was convinced they had no future...)

[twm]

I think the "guy from Decca" gets a bit of a raw deal from fans and journalists alike. I suspect most of those people would not have seen the potential in The Beatles at that time. I think schadenfreude sums it up.

[superval99]

I think the "guy from Decca" gets a bit of a raw deal from fans and journalists alike. I suspect most of those people would not have seen the potential in The Beatles at that time. I think schadenfreude sums it up.

I think a lot of the fans were pretty surprised too!   My friends and myself were at the Cavern most lunchtimes and on Saturday evenings and although we thought they were a great little band, nobody was more surprised than us when Love Me Do went into the charts!  I remember us all dancing around the office that day!   

[vgonis]

About the Beatles yes, indeed, I see your point. On the other hand, Gerry and the "pacemakers", instead? Hmmmm... Something rotten in the kingdom of Discmark. And many other examples.
But I guess you can't give chances to everybody just because they have potential. And maybe the Beatles became the Beatles, because of the hard work, that the countless rejections forced them into.   

[JF]

I think it's the same with many famous bands

last week I was watching a french docu about Pink Floyd, and Nick mason said in an itw something like :

"when the group decided to separate from Barrett, our manager decided to bet on him, and not on us. So he chose to manage Syd's career, hoping he would become a famous rock star, while we would fall quickly as an obscure psych rock band without future. Of course history has shown that he was wrong, but at that time, everybody "outside the band" would have thought like him, it was objectively the "wisest" option"

[vgonis]

JF that proves that Roger Waters owes everything to Syd and manager, for not supporting him!  All the hard work he had do do with the rest to prove him wrong!
But I think it falls under the category LUCK. It is there every time. We just know the success stories. There are too many short stories about failure. The most dramatic one, (which in fact is a bit longer than most)  ending with two suicides, being the Badfinger story, related to the Beatles...