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Author Topic: Guitars from old New York  (Read 16682 times)

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Re: Guitars from old New York
« Reply #75 on: March 14, 2012, 09:40:47 AM »
J.J. Cale's 10 first albums are immaculate. And the rest are fabulous. So you can chose between them.  :lol My personal favourites are Naturally, Troubadour, Grasshopper, and most of all 8. But the rest are equally good. Okie and really are almost low-fi blues, 5 and shades explore new idioms and have some of his best songs, Trave log... You get the picture. It is trial and win!
saw the man live and met him afterwards once, ....wonderful.
the man is the legends' legend.
and so humble and friendly.
one of my absolute favorites is a lesser known song/album "Artificial Paradise" from "10"
it has this sweet little solo, nothing shred-like, but just ...awesome..
one early version, yeeeeaars before it got on the album...
 
solo starts at about 3:36
and here another version...
   this one is from an even earlier session i believe.
here the solo starts around 3:26
   last version i could find.
and here a little bitty together with EC:
 
« Last Edit: March 14, 2012, 09:50:04 AM by Pottel »
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Re: Guitars from old New York
« Reply #76 on: March 14, 2012, 09:53:21 AM »
Yes, I love "Artificial Paradise"!   I have 15 of J Js albums - "Okie", was the first one I bought and it took a few spins to appreciate, but now it's one of my favourites.   :)
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Re: Guitars from old New York
« Reply #77 on: March 14, 2012, 09:53:34 AM »
and another beauty is mama don't allow (even though i believe he did not write that one)
 
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Re: Guitars from old New York
« Reply #78 on: March 14, 2012, 09:54:56 AM »
the man is sheer genius...
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Re: Guitars from old New York
« Reply #79 on: March 14, 2012, 10:22:51 AM »
NO, he is not the composer of Mama don't, (even though a promo 7'' I have, gives him this credit) but surely his interpretation is the best! And "Shades" LP which includes it, also has Carry on, Cloudy day and Deep dark dungeon, which are amongst my favourites!

Thank you Superval and Pottel for the videos. I have all his albums and then some! A couple of bootlegs, live and compilations (just for the 2-3 new songs), singles and maxis. On his first 11 years of solo career (before his first record he had issued one with Leon  Russell, in the mid 60ies,  as "The Leathercoated minds" ) he delivered 8 fantastic records. A feature very few artists have accomplished. The harder to get into are Okie and Really, that are low - fi and in reality a different approach than the rest, while the others are almost immaculate! (2-3 weaker songs, in every album, but by no means bad, just weaker).

And yes, I can find resemblance with MK, (Banjo, I quite agree with you about BD)  in some albums, like Grasshopper, but still it is a different compositional approach all together. MK's guitar skills, especially during the DS days, were the main attraction, while JJ always went for the song. And his style is fantastic, and when he delivers solos they are treats for the ears!   

And maybe he is the first rock artist to be using (even from 1972!) a drum machine in his recordings!
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Re: Guitars from old New York
« Reply #80 on: March 14, 2012, 11:09:13 AM »
J.J Cale is from Oklahoma, isn't he?
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Re: Guitars from old New York
« Reply #81 on: March 14, 2012, 11:36:24 AM »
Yes he is. What a strange question to be asking, jbaent! :)
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Re: Guitars from old New York
« Reply #82 on: March 14, 2012, 11:54:54 AM »
Didn't Mark once play with JJ Cale at some West Coast club? Was it called "Sweetwater" or is my memory all mixed up?

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Re: Guitars from old New York
« Reply #83 on: March 14, 2012, 02:12:36 PM »
Didn't Mark once play with JJ Cale at some West Coast club? Was it called "Sweetwater" or is my memory all mixed up?
Mike Kappus, JJ's manager and Guy both confirmed to me Mark joined JJ onstage on sept. 14th somewhere in South Calidornia (got the exact location somewhere in my mails) and a famous picture (made by Mike Kappus) exists of it.
if only a recording would turn up!!! just recently the night before got uploaded on Dime.....
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Re: Guitars from old New York
« Reply #84 on: March 14, 2012, 07:15:50 PM »
The more I think about it, I'm pretty sure that one of the MK community, whom I have met at a number of shows, once told me that Mark joined JJ Cale at a club in the San Francisco area. The reason I remember is that he asked if I could check amongst my contacts if, by any chance, there was a recording of it somewhere. I did check but nothing came of it. Unfortunately, I can't recall how long ago I was asked about this. However, I'm pretty sure that their playing together was way back sometime in the 1980s, possibly during one of the major DS tours of those days. I can't, in all honestly, remember the name of the club where this was said to have taken place but I have a vague feeling that it was something like "Sweetwater".

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Re: Guitars from old New York
« Reply #85 on: March 14, 2012, 08:23:17 PM »
Pottel, that solo you mentioned is really awesome! It has also very much early Mark flavour I think. Great! Thanks fo that! I have that album as a CD somewhere, will give it a try again.

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Re: Guitars from old New York
« Reply #86 on: March 14, 2012, 11:38:18 PM »
 ::) twm, I believe that you are on to something, that even the collectors of bootlegs are unaware of. It is not surprising, though. I have heard a similar rumor, that MK met with JJ around 1982-3. (The rumor went on to mention an incognito  participation in the JJ album 8, but such rumor is rather far fetched. Of course in the credits you find the name Richard Thompson...but that is another story). Those days, JJ kept a very low profile, and the only way to meet him was if he desired it. So, if you can find your old source I am surely interested! Thank you.   
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Re: Guitars from old New York
« Reply #87 on: March 14, 2012, 11:52:56 PM »
What I did find was this  ....

http://z7.invisionfree.com/Silvertown_Blues/index.php?showtopic=139&st=0&#last

.... though the photo would not come up on my screen.

I do not know whether this really confirms what I recall. The person who mentioned it to me could have seen, or heard of, something similar but had no definite information.

Doubtless, you will know when DS played the San Francisco area in 1985, so I guess it would be around about then. Maybe, if someone here lives close to San Francisco, a search in the local newspaper files would yield some useful information.

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Re: Guitars from old New York
« Reply #88 on: March 15, 2012, 12:31:08 AM »
Ahem, did no one read my post? It is all there folks. Mark joined je onstage on the 14th of sept. in south california, I forgot which city, but got it somewhere (1985 by the way)
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Re: Guitars from old New York
« Reply #89 on: March 15, 2012, 12:32:57 AM »
Ok ,so San Fran it was. Still. Got it black on white from jj's manager, he made that particular pic.
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