Guitars from old New York

[Pottel]

i believe you posted this way back, on here as well, it was a very long list of stuff.
the shitty thing with an action like that is that it was probably downloaded as lossy files and spread as "lossless".

[Jackal]

Thanks for the Mark interview. Great read. So nice to read or hear something when Mark is genuinly interested. Interesting to read about what he thought about his songs.

I think how interested Mark is totally depends on how much respect he has for the interviewer and what kind of audience will read the interview.

[Pottel]

trying to hear what you describe twm, but it is an unruly audience...the intro takes a while, yes, ....have not heard the girl...gonna look for a dvd now :-)

[Pottel]

omg Twm, this show happens to have my #2 favorite BD song of all times on it "I Want You" ...so good...

[twm]

I've probably said before but I attended all four shows.

I wrote some notes about the  shows in ISIS magazine and, when one of the bootleg albums appeared, the perpetrators had used my words as the liner notes but I didn't even get a copy of the bootleg set. And still don't have a copy.

Anyway, I have managed to dig out my notes on the incident in question and here's what I wrote, as an aside at the end of my piece:

As the band started the introduction to One More Cup Of Coffee, Dylan went across to Tony Garnier and asked, "What's the first line? I forgot". Garnier was also unsure. A girl at the front called out, "Your breath is sweet" and Dylan was away; he really went at the lyrics, seeming to thank the girl by his movements. Then, on the second show, he came out after the main set, walked up to her, bent down and asked, "What's the first line of I Shall Be Released?". On being told, he said, "Oh wow!" and did the song.  The latter could have been a test, of course, but the episode raises an interesting possibility. When we find Dylan deviating from the cue sheet or seeming to start one song but actually beginning another, perhaps (just "perhaps"), he is simply singing a song whose first line he can recall at that precise moment.

[twm]

I've just checked one of the boxes in the garage and retrieved "Songwiters on Songwriting", a book by Paul Zollo, and the Mark KNopfler interview is contained in that (pp.158 - 162). I have the 1991 edition of the book (published by Writer's Digest Books) but I believe an expanded edition of the book was publsihed later. I assume the MK interview is included in that expanded edition but I haven't checked. Neither have I checked that the full MK interview is in the book but I guess it is.

Anyway, I would recommend the book to anyone with an interest in the subject. Its 31 interviewees include Paul Simon, Carole King, Gerry Goffin, Jimmy Webb, Randy Newman, Van Dyke Parks, Rodney Crowell, Lamont Dozier, Willie Dixon, Brian Wilson and all sorts of others. Some of it is not strictly about songwriting but is still interesting. The songs covered in the text are listed at the end and the list runs to 10 pages.

[twm]

Going back to Dylan's guitar from old New York, I think the other place the wood came from was Chumley's.

They tear down places willy-nilly in the Staes. For reasons too boring to tell, I was doing a bit of google-mapping earlier and cross-referencing to google street-view. I looked for a street that I knew very well in Hartford, Connecticut a long, long time ago. It is unrecognizable today. I don't just mean minor changes, upgrades or gentrification but total change. What I can recall has been obliterated and for more than one whole block. The old buildings are just gone and the street is much wider.  The quite small junction with a cross street is now quite a major junction. The church on the corner with Main Street is still there and that's about it. It is inevitable but very disheartening. And no guitars from the remnants as far as I know.

[Pottel]

true, my hometown of Antwerp has seen such drastic changes as well, especially in the 60/70 only for worse.
what they do there these days is much more interesting and with love for detail.

[Jackal]

It seems like anything that was built in the 60s and 70s was done without ANY aesthetic considerations. This was of course very much true for the countries under Communism, where everything should be functional and bear no resemblance to the aesthetics of the "bourgois". But even in the "free West" the fashion was square grey concrete buildings. I'm from Norway, and in Norway there are tons of beautiful little picturesque towns with wooden buildings that have had their town centres completely destroyed by erecting such buildings. Architectural rape!

[superval99]

 I was in my old home city of Liverpool at the weekend and I was horrified to find that next to the (still) magnificent buildings on the waterfront - The Liver Building, The Cunard Building and The Mersey Docks & Harbour Board Building, another building has appeared, resembling a very large black glass box!  Apparently, there were endless protests from the public, but it went ahead anyway - money talks in these cases!   Now, what was once a beautiful view from The Albert Dock to the waterfront is obliterated by this monstrous new building!    

What is even worse, is when beautiful old buildings are "improved" with tacky new facades,  eventually ending up as take-aways or seedy cafes and restaurants and the next thing is they go out of business and are boarded up!   Gone are the original beautiful buildings! 

[Hophead]

For some strange reason I feel compelled to listen to "Telegraph Road" while reading this thread.

[Pottel]

suits you sir, suits you! :-)

[JF]

sorry to get back to this thread again, but I've just found the time to read the itw scanned by Pottel, and WOOOWWW !!!!
really great itw

Of course I know the secondary waltz version from 95 (golden demos), but how the journalist had the info of this song in 90 ?

I remember reading that this song was wrote during DS days, but It's very strange that a journalist knew a song still not recorded ! even not in a outtake !

even Mark seems surprised !

[Fletch]

Yes, how did he know

I've been listening to some of the Pink Floyd Immersion set previews on YouTube, they are a real treat for fans. Can our imagine the glory of such a package devoted to Knopflers outtakes etc ? There MUST be so much fantastic listening material in the vaults.

[Pottel]

Dude, look forthe multitrack bbc radio thing about echoes and shine on and stuff on YouTube, it is friggin awesome!