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Re: Communiqu
« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2011, 03:04:01 PM »
I must admit I rarely listen to DS these days, but when I do, it is usually either Dire Straits or Communique. The "wonderful" Brothers is probably the most boring album.

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Re: Communiqu
« Reply #31 on: December 12, 2011, 08:56:16 PM »
I like it too! Nice news - it will be released (as well as MM and AL) by Universal on SHM -SACD in February 2012.

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Re: Communiqu
« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2011, 09:03:27 AM »
I like it too! Nice news - it will be released (as well as MM and AL) by Universal on SHM -SACD in February 2012.

Is there any software to "translate" that SACD to dvd-audio or dts cds? I mean, something that people could listen to without having to buy a new player?
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Re: Communiqu
« Reply #33 on: December 14, 2011, 09:16:38 AM »
I like it too! Nice news - it will be released (as well as MM and AL) by Universal on SHM -SACD in February 2012.

Is there any software to "translate" that SACD to dvd-audio or dts cds? I mean, something that people could listen to without having to buy a new player?

I have exactly the same problem, but I also don't have a 5.1 system. I know from a friend that there are SACD compatible DVD players, around 70 Euros. I ill not buy one, since I will need to buy a 5.1 PA system and maybe a new TV (mine is barely 12'') but if you have the rest you are only 70 Euros away!
Generally I do not recommend buying new machines, but I guess there are limited ways to rip the SACD information and put them on a CD. Too bad they don't put out for sale the nice audio DVDs like they did with BiA 20th anniversary (although I can't enjoy this either without 5.1) 
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Re: Communiqu
« Reply #34 on: December 14, 2011, 10:08:16 AM »
what's AL?

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Re: Communiqu
« Reply #35 on: December 14, 2011, 12:07:23 PM »
I guess it is ALchemy...  ???
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Re: Communiqu
« Reply #36 on: December 14, 2011, 01:53:56 PM »
I like it too! Nice news - it will be released (as well as MM and AL) by Universal on SHM -SACD in February 2012.

Is there any software to "translate" that SACD to dvd-audio or dts cds? I mean, something that people could listen to without having to buy a new player?

Yes, it's possible now. But first step is not simple. You have to have an old SONY PS3 to rip SACD iso. Next step is easy:

1) you can convert it to PCM and make a DVD-Audio (software for converstion: A) Korg AudioGate for stereo (free)  B) Foobar with SACD plugin for stereo/multichannel (free) C) Weiss Saracon SRC for stereo and multichannel (very expensive )).  
2) Or use Foobar with plugin to listen to SACD iso or diff files (DSD to PCM converation "on fly").

All Universlal SHM-SACD made in Japan - stereo only - flat transfer from analog tapes. Making Movies and Alchemy will be relased on SHM-SACD too.  
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Re: Communiqu
« Reply #37 on: December 14, 2011, 02:03:06 PM »

All Universlal SHM-SACD made in Japan - stereo only - flat transfer from analog tapes. Making Movies and Alchemy will be relased on SHM-SACD too.  


So, its gonna be just stereo SACD? no surround mix?
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Re: Communiqu
« Reply #38 on: December 14, 2011, 02:07:35 PM »

All Universlal SHM-SACD made in Japan - stereo only - flat transfer from analog tapes. Making Movies and Alchemy will be relased on SHM-SACD too.  


So, its gonna be just stereo SACD? no surround mix?

Yes, stereo only.

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Re: Communiqu
« Reply #39 on: December 14, 2011, 04:10:06 PM »
Alchemy DVD and Blue ray is remixed in surround 5.1, so I really don't get the SACD stereo reissue. As a matter of fact I understand why they do it, (Money money money mOney!) but I wonder why the artists don't see that their fans are taken for a ride to the bank, to cash their desires.   Neil Young and many other issue their NEW albums as 5.1 surround DVD and audio CD combo, for a regular price and vinyl replica cover!  I will pass this time, since there are no extras or even 5.1 that any way I am unable to listen to and enjoy. And anyway I have heard of the albums so many times (let alone buy them several times over) that I don't know if it is worth it. I guess Guy would answer the same way he replied about Get Lucky deluxe 100 pounds: "Bargain". Any thoughts on the matter, other than "if you don't like, don't buy?"  I come to wonder lately, about the "extra" song in the compilations of my favourite artists. If the compilations were intended for the general population, and not just the fans, there wouldn't be any extra tracks. But it seems that the fans are a considerable part of the consuming force even for compilations.
Now that the world has only 3 major record companies that amount to the 90% of the whole music "business" and Universal is one of them, such stands will become more regular. We were used to such things from Pink Floyd that have not actually produced any new music over two decades, or Led Zeppelin or whoever, but at least their overpriced-repackaged product has bits of extras. Not much for the price we are expected to pay or for the quality of the extras, but it is a nice way to say rip off and keeping pretensions at the same time.  For the sake of music, why kill the goose that lays the golden eggs, meaning the buying audience, forcing them to download music, legally or otherwise.
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Re: Communiqu
« Reply #40 on: December 16, 2011, 07:55:16 PM »
I must admit I rarely listen to DS these days, but when I do, it is usually either Dire Straits or Communique. The "wonderful" Brothers is probably the most boring album.

Get out!!!!!  ;) BIA is just a wonderful album IMO. Ride Across the River and BIA in particular are stunning
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Re: Communiqu
« Reply #41 on: December 16, 2011, 08:20:31 PM »
Get out!!!!!  ;) BIA is just a wonderful album IMO. Ride Across the River and BIA in particular are stunning

The songs are good, but the production and "sound" are to me very dull. Guy has said this about BIA:

That album was recorded 20 years ago during the initial excitement of digital recording. we didn't really know what we were doing, no-one did. The album sounds pretty naff to me compared to what we get up to nowdays. We incorporate analog simply because we all now know it has a sound that lasts and is particularly pleasing on the ear.

I agree.

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Re: Communiqu
« Reply #42 on: December 16, 2011, 11:22:59 PM »
Get out!!!!!  ;) BIA is just a wonderful album IMO. Ride Across the River and BIA in particular are stunning

The songs are good, but the production and "sound" are to me very dull. Guy has said this about BIA:

That album was recorded 20 years ago during the initial excitement of digital recording. we didn't really know what we were doing, no-one did. The album sounds pretty naff to me compared to what we get up to nowdays. We incorporate analog simply because we all now know it has a sound that lasts and is particularly pleasing on the ear.

I agree.

Yeah I agree with the recording side of things. That's what happens when you try new fully digital technology for the first time I suppose. The albums these days are so organic, they sound wonderful.
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Re: Communiqu
« Reply #43 on: December 17, 2011, 12:39:28 PM »
I think this is exactly why it sounds so good;  because it was an example of DS exactly at the forefront of album production at that era.  In other words, it defines the mid 80s in sound. 

Guy is always going on about how great the most recent things are anyway as we all know so we can take that as Guy being polite and ever so reliable to Mark.  A stand up guy you could say!
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Re: Communiqu
« Reply #44 on: December 19, 2011, 11:59:04 AM »
It's funny - I always thought of Communique as my least favourite DS album (apart from the awful OES which I've never bought)

But playing in a DS tribute band I had to go through the back catalogue and decide which songs to do. Surprised myself by choosing more songs off thus album than any other. Id still put DS and LOG ahead of  it, but it has some of MKs very best songs.

The other thing that surprised me was that apart from RandJ and Tunnel - which are, admittedly, two extraordinarily good songs, MM is a bit of a disappointment listening to it again after a few years away. Starts off genius, then slowly tumbles away to mediocraty and by the end (les boys) is actually awful.


 

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